vg|2009 USBC USA2 Final,Segment 6 of 6,I,76,90,Fleisher,142,Nickell,165|
rs|4HE=,5CExx-4,4SE+1,4SE+1,3NE=,3NW+1,3NW+1,3NW=,4SW+1,4SE-1,5DN=,5DS+1,1NE=,3DE=,2SN-2,3CE-3,3NE=,4HE=,4HS+1,4HS+1,3NN+2,6DN=,4HW=,4HW=,3NW-1,5CE=,4HS-1,4HN-2,4SE+2,6CE=|
pn|Weichsel,Meckstroth,Ekeblad,Rodwell,Zia,Rubin,Hamman,Granovette|pg||
qx|o76|st||md|2SAJ952H3DAKJ85CT7,S3HJT762DQ76432C2,ST864H9854DCQ9654,SKQ7HAKQDT9CAKJ83|sv|n|nt|mtvesuvius: This is nearly the biggest margin so far this match, we should have an exciting last quarter|pg||
nt|pef: but the last 15 boards here will decide who becomes USA II for the world championship in Brazil in the fall|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|STR, ART, F|nt|mtvesuvius: 4@H EW will be interesting|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Also welcome to our Meckwell expert, Walter Johnson|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 1@c = 16+ Unbal. or 17+ Bal|pg||
nt|pef: n/s might, even at this vul. bid 4s|pg||
nt|lc: Can we get a Weichsel-Ekeblad expert, too?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: That would be tough to do :)|pg||
nt|lc: Even they aren't sure at times.. :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|an|0-7|mb|p|nt|pef: well we've learned about their 2 bids, one level responses, and responses to overcalls|pg||
mb|2N|an|21-23|nt|bigtrain: 2NT =  21-23|pg||
nt|pef: but passing over a strong club with the south hand surprises me a bit|pg||
nt|lc: Many play that direct interference over big @C shows a bad hand.  Maybe that is why Weichsel waited.|pg||
nt|lc: But, now it is too hight.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|mtvesuvius: Delayed action over strong @c is used to show a good hand, but it's too late now|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|nt|pef: so an unrestricted path to a likely 4h|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: If trailing, West might easily have tried something funny dealer Fav -- but up 23, Meck went the normal way by passing.|pg||
nt|barnets: can declarer overcome the bad heat break?|pg||
nt|pef: seems like even on a trump lead, ew should come to 5 hearts in hand, two ruffs in dummy, two clubs, and a spade|pg||
nt|pef: i don't see too much that n/s can do about it|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|barnets: if he ruffs twice he has a trump loser|pg||
pc|s8|nt|pef: maybe a trump switch now, and then giving partner a ruff with a low diamond|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|pef: so he can play a second trump?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Might need to ruff 1@d or 2 in hand, but nothing too much with the @c working|pg||
nt|pef: no,barnet because he can get his low trumps with either club or spade ruffs depending on what north pitches|pg||
nt|thegarve:  hi all went to open room in error and there is an exciting auction in place|pg||
nt|lc: Very complicated hand to defend.  Weichsel doesn't want declarer to throw dummy's @S3 on @C, but doesn't want to lay down @SA and set up winners for declarer.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: hi Martin :)|pg||
nt|thegarve:  Fleischer won't be pleased|pg||
nt|pef: it seems like the only chance for the defense is the trump switch now|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: The option would be @d underlead, @s back and trump return, but declarer can still prevail|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: The J@D return would give declarer a little trouble|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|c9|pc|dT|pg||
nt|pef: i don't think that's true unless he plays a trump first, still the ten tricks I mentioned|pg||
nt|lc: From Weichsel's point of view, there was room for his partner to have @HQ.  So, by taking his 3 tricks, he is likely to set the hand.|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@CXX in othe rroom|pg||
nt|lc: The @HQ will score even if @HQxx.|pg||
nt|lc: Which way?|pg||
nt|barnets: a bidding misunderstanding|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That won't make many overtricks|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w|pg||
nt|pef: hold on to your hats, granovetter and rubin are in 5c redoubled in the closed room|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Uh oh. Granovetter is playing 5@c XXed.|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d4|nt|Walddk2: what is the contract?|pg||
nt|lc: That is not good news for those wanting a close match.|pg||
pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: 5 said it already|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|lc: But, good news for Nickell and Freeman, watching us.|pg||
nt|barnets: the very first board|pg||
nt|pef: so this will be a 16 or 17 imp swing to the Nickell team|pg||
nt|lc: Funny that Making 4@H or -1 in 4@H now has very little swing value.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s2|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: the Irony :)|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|barnets: rubin bid 4N over 4@S to show a 2 suiter|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
nt|barnets: and when gran bid 5@C zia x and rubin xx|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|d7|nt|barnets: gran thought that was to play|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|pef: this format is in some ways awfully cruel, particularly to the Fleisher team if they lose this match.  They will have played for 11 grueling days, beaten many, many super teams, ...|pg||
nt|pef: including Nickell in 120 boards, and have nothing but pride to show for it|pg||
mc|10|nt|thegarve:  19!|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 1600, wow|pg||
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qx|c76|st||md|2SAJ952H3DAKJ85CT7,S3HJT762DQ76432C2,ST864H9854DCQ9654,SKQ7HAKQDT9CAKJ83|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: a meltdown in the play apparently|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Raghavan and Martin|pg||
nt|raghavan: Wc all kibits|pg||
nt|raghavan: Hi Ellen|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: the 10 was unlucky|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|gavin: west has to stop low|pg||
mb|1S|nt|capercliff: here is a slam im sure they will get to|pg||
nt|gavin: lets see if ew have some sort of lebensohl agreement here|pg||
nt|gavin: some people play 2nt here says i have a bad hand, some play it scrambling|pg||
nt|caitlin: not uncommon over this double to have such an agreement|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5@C on NS, 3NT down|pg||
nt|gowdy: @S and a minor|pg||
nt|lestergold: and e/w cannot compete against this|pg||
mb|p|an|0-4 or trap|mb|3S|nt|fabsayc: 6NT by north the top spot, but 6@D also excellent|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome back, drinks for all on me :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i predict 4h|pg||
mb|3N|nt|fabsayc: assuming they have some kind of two way new minor available|pg||
nt|lestergold: no probs in this contract with the hands so well fitting|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome back to the last 16 boards of an exciting match|pg||
mb|4S|nt|fabsayc: what is 2@H, maybe a relay|pg||
nt|mcarroll: If they opt for the Moysian @S fit it will be a problem|pg||
nt|caitlin: a support double?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: value showing|pg||
nt|lestergold: prob make 3|pg||
mb|4N|nt|raghavan: Double or 4S bid will come|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|nt|caitlin: shows the need for the 2NT bid|pg||
mb|d|nt|fabsayc: if it is, doubling is likely to help opponents|pg||
nt|gavin: was wrong about the line up|pg||
nt|gavin: they did runt he same 4 again|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even with lebensohl likely to try 4|pg||
nt|gavin: agree, west hand is so huge, hard to judge|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh What agood bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5@C good bid|pg||
nt|mcarroll: great bidding|pg||
nt|raghavan: Martin did N hear you saying 5C?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well yesterday he made good bids i did not say|pg||
nt|caitlin: Nader Hanna can lead singleton spade but never gets partner in|pg||
nt|raghavan: North reasoningmay be S did not bid 3S over 3H so may be S 3 cards so clubs in S hand is assured|pg||
nt|caitlin: agree|pg||
mb|r|nt|gavin: north can see at trick one that the only chance to beat this hand is his partner having the Jack of hearts since clubs are frozen if the Q and K are reversed|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: wolperts main worry is xx in diamonds opposite|pg||
nt|sharynr: hi folks!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome sharyn|pg||
nt|Walddk12: Hi Martin and Sharyn|pg||
nt|Walddk12: and hello to our wonderful operator, Karen, aka macaw on BBO @H|pg||
nt|mcarroll: good analysis|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: he will overtake the spade to play another spade|pg||
nt|gavin: hoping declarer leads a high heart from dummy|pg||
nt|gavin: giving him 1 extra chance to beat the hand |pg||
nt|gavin: if his partner has 9x of hearts|pg||
nt|lestergold: altho may be a prob for south with last club so mayube only 2|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: pick a slam|pg||
nt|capercliff: I would think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5NT i guess is pick a slam|pg||
nt|capercliff: he will bid 6@d I would guess, holding 4 small @c's|pg||
nt|gavin: leading a 4th round and having his partner ruff high in hearts|pg||
nt|raghavan: Tx Martin|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|h4|nt|sharynr: ty Roland|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|capercliff: especially after the X|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oops|pg||
nt|capercliff: ooooooooooh|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: misinterpreted the 5nt|pg||
nt|mcarroll: oops indeed|pg||
nt|gavin: club shift will make this go faster|pg||
pc|s4|nt|sybarra: hello all and welcome back |pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|caitlin: Last night we had Gavin Wolpert here commentating...was excellent...he is now a pro and the Wolpert family is well known in Toronto with their mother, Hazel, who came in second in ...|pg||
nt|caitlin: CWTC, owns a major bridge club here|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|nt|vugraphznx: lost the play :(|pg||
nt|gowdy: tell them to slow it down :)|pg||
nt|lestergold: well its not that exciting a hand  i think two spades made unless defence errs|pg||
pc|c4|nt|gavin: i guess the word faster|pg||
nt|gavin: and jurek|pg||
nt|gavin: dont go together that well|pg||
nt|caitlin: Shirley you here?|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fabsayc: i play weak no trump, when they double, always run, rarely gets any worse|pg||
nt|glen: do you have methods that get to your 4-4 fit?|pg||
nt|gambit: out of the frying pan...|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i will settle for a 4-3, even a chunky 4-2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|gavin: unless theres a "than" between them... faster than jurek, is a common expression|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|sharynr: they did well to stay out of 4@S didnt they...mirror hands|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d5|pc|h7|nt|Walddk12: Welcome to Susan Korbel (who may be a little biased) :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: welcome to Bart Bramley |pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|susieq: hi all- just a little :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi Susie|pg||
nt|sharynr: Hi|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s2|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|d6|pc|s8|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o77|st||md|3S52HKQ8DJT863CQ76,SJT983HAJ754DK9C3,SQHT9DQ754CAKJT54,SAK764H632DA2C982|sv|b|nt|mtvesuvius: It's been a year or 2 since I've gone for 1600 :)|pg||
nt|thegarve:  LNW result for those who know|pg||
nt|lc: One rule that many expert pairs have is : Redouble of Game Contract always business.|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|d!|nt|mtvesuvius: It works well, and avoids alot of those types of problems.|pg||
nt|lc: East must have thought that West would run to  5@D with reds.  |pg||
nt|pef: yes, I don't understand why rubin redoubled instead of bidding 5d, he'd already shown a two-suiter|pg||
nt|lc: No doubt, they will discuss it -- but alas, too late.|pg||
nt|thegarve:  redouble is bizarre, surely 5@D is equal or better @D|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: He was worried it would show a @d 1 suiter|pg||
nt|lc: 4NT first had to be 2 suits.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Me: "sorry, but personally I do not like it when people misspell my name and I don't think that Fleisher does either"|pg||
nt|barnets: sigm of tiredness I think|pg||
nt|thegarve:  waaaaahhhhh|pg||
nt|lc: Fleisher just phoned me -- I think after watching board 76, he has more concerns than spelling.  :(|pg||
mb|2S|an|FG, clubs I think|mb|4S|nt|thegarve:  yesa silly comment|pg||
nt|pef: 4s is cold e/w by n/s have two big minor fits so may take the sack|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Note that Meckwell, of course, have an understanding as to the X od the artif. 2@D.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: By the way, 2@c was 10-15 and 6+@c or 5+@s 4+@c|pg||
nt|lc: Some people would play X=@D,  some play it as takeout,  most haven't discussed it, nor wish to.|pg||
nt|barnets: one reason for the big swing is that hamman - zia bid up to 4@S while weichsel passed with the south cards|pg||
nt|lc: Of course, if Weichsel had bid 1@S, I doubt it would have induced 1,600 from Meck.  :)|pg||
nt|barnets: unlikely|pg||
nt|pef: yes, that's an interesting point.  if bidding over the strong club shows weak hands, every so often when you have a good hand you've got real problems|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Him: "pathetic grow up" "your not sorry but high-brow" "so learn a lesson" "and grow up"|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Maybe 200, but still...|pg||
nt|lc: Not all West's would be brave enough, VUL, to enter on this Deal (77) with Meck's hand -- but nobody ever accused him of being shy.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: it pays off in this case|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c4|pc|sK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
nt|lc: In fact, I play (with David) that X=!, so might have gotten blown out and missed 620.|pg||
nt|lc: X = @D|pg||
mc|11|nt|lc: X of most artif bids show that suit.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: I'm sorry, that was ll supposed to be going to a specific person - I don't know how the gremlins put the whole room in the to box|pg||
nt|lc: Today, more than ever, you need to know what X's mean -- "everyone" has these newfangled artificial bids in so many auctions.|pg||
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qx|c77|st||md|3S52HKQ8DJT863CQ76,SJT983HAJ754DK9C3,SQHT9DQ754CAKJT54,SAK764H632DA2C982|sv|b|nt|sharynr: Well same result anyway|pg||
nt|raghavan: Ellen can u say the name of the city for kibits to know|pg||
nt|caitlin: nicely bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: Toronto|pg||
nt|raghavan: Tx|pg||
nt|bbramley: hello everyone|pg||
mb|1C|nt|fabsayc: welcome all|pg||
mb|1S|nt|fabsayc: Susie has all the secrets|pg||
nt|lestergold: 20/20 hand here|pg||
mb|d|nt|capercliff: could 5N really be a grand slam bid after 1N?|pg||
nt|shals: Good evening this game is being played in beautiful Penticton B>C> I am joining Caitlin|pg||
nt|fabsayc: easy but "slow" 3nt|pg||
nt|caitlin: all 3 of these players, I believe are from Toronto, certainly Hanna Nader, Jim Green, Darren Wolpert|pg||
nt|caitlin: or Czyz may be Montreal, not sure|pg||
nt|fabsayc: match tightened up a little in the last segment|pg||
nt|glen: hi bart, glad to hear you are joining the kast of katz|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: don't ask me|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: welcome Shirley Laidaw|pg||
nt|bbramley: yes, ralph & I will be warming up shortly|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: but i think if wolpert had heart ace, would have cued at some point, similarly with void|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Hard to envisage 5NT as GSF|pg||
nt|raghavan: NS may play in 1NTor 2C|pg||
nt|raghavan: 2C has come|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@H showed spades, double presumably hearts|pg||
nt|caitlin: at Open Table Carruthers, who has won many championships, is from Toronto, his partner Joey Silver from Montreal and L'Ecuyer and Fergani from Quebec|pg||
pc|s2|nt|gavin: with the heart entries in easts hand , north can probably scramble together 10 or 11 tricks|pg||
nt|gavin: welcome shirley|pg||
nt|shals: ty|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome Shirley|pg||
nt|shals: ty|pg||
nt|caitlin: Shirley you have come to a Canadian zoo:)|pg||
nt|lestergold: n/ cannot come in at these colours|pg||
nt|lestergold: but 2s may already be overboard|pg||
nt|gowdy: 2@S looks like an underbid  perfect on this hand|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|sharynr: should East return to 4@S now?|pg||
nt|lestergold: important here for the defence to give nothing away|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|fabsayc: good plan if they let you do it|pg||
nt|sharynr: lol|pg||
nt|sharynr: i type too slow|pg||
nt|shals: really..I am going to play ther next week ..wonderful tournament|pg||
nt|gavin: me too|pg||
nt|gavin: im about to start my trip around the world in about 4 hours when i leave for stockholm airport|pg||
nt|shals: hope we can meet|pg||
nt|glen: good evening all|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi Glen|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a lot of work to do|pg||
nt|sybarra: these X  allow the XX,  |pg||
pc|s4|nt|lestergold: if defence open up hearts for example Green may end up with a trick|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|nt|fabsayc: unfortunate lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: i guess they dont play super KCB|pg||
nt|sybarra: only helps opps imo |pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and we end with a flat board - probably|pg||
nt|capercliff: there are many other ways he could have persued a grand slam on this hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this broadcast will continue all day, see bbo schedule for time|pg||
nt|capercliff: bye all|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i might have tried 5@S with hannas hand, he can be sure 6@C is down|pg||
nt|sharynr: agree|pg||
nt|fabsayc: what is your itenary, gavin?|pg||
nt|gavin: 8 1/2 hour flight to nyc, go into the city for a few hours (5 hour layover) to hang out with friends, then back to the airport for a 6 hour flight to calgary, another hour to banff ...|pg||
nt|gavin: before i quit for the night |pg||
nt|caitlin: Gavin is also a Wolpert .........Darren playing South:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: nice lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: 6 aces for @H and @s|pg||
pc|c3|nt|fabsayc: welcome to segment 3 of the Canadian finals from always sunny Penticton|pg||
nt|caitlin: for declarer|pg||
pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: thanks to our operator Karen, to the commentators, spectators for their comments, to BBO for allowing us to see bridge from everywhere, and to the CBF for arranging this broadcast|pg||
nt|gavin: then spending sunday driving through banff which ive never done before|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|shals: ok|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: fortunately wont have any effect here, but i see no point in this double|pg||
nt|bbramley: another case for 6RKC|pg||
nt|bbramley: good to have some rules for what's trump in ambiguous keycard auctions|pg||
nt|sybarra: isnt @H set with raise of @H?  |pg||
nt|sybarra: or could be @S with cue bid?|pg||
nt|bbramley: not the way i play - for me 3@S makes both suits key - immed fits in two suits|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the rule i use is partners suit is the key suit|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|sharynr: I wonder if  Daniel would have guess @D in 6@D|pg||
nt|gavin: and finally get there sunday night , relax have breakfast monday and show up for the ko|pg||
nt|shals: Banff and the trip to the Okanagan is spectacular!|pg||
nt|caitlin: to Penticton??|pg||
nt|fabsayc: warning you will have your picture taken 20 times and be asked to take pictures at least that many times|pg||
nt|caitlin: where you going for KO?|pg||
nt|gavin: penticton|pg||
nt|gavin: regional starts monday night|pg||
nt|caitlin: awesome|pg||
nt|gavin: sucks that i will miss my mom and bro by a day|pg||
nt|lestergold: Green will try to force/encourage the defence to open up something to his advantage|pg||
nt|bbramley: but joey may not know for sure|pg||
pc|h9|nt|fabsayc: needed to cash a second spade before the diamond|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|bbramley: if joey thought @Hs were the only key suit, then he could be missing a grand|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|sharynr: I guess Jim made it easier|pg||
nt|sharynr: right|pg||
nt|sybarra: and as he will say.  NEXT|pg||
pc|dK|nt|lestergold: a club exit is safe|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|nt|shals: ok Gavin, I will bring my camera, then?|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|gavin: so when he knocks out the heart, he will be able to squeeze hughes in hearts and spades for his 11th trick|pg||
nt|lestergold: so is a dim but it removes an exit card from north|pg||
nt|bbramley: some play first agreed suit, or the major, or whatever - for me it's clear that with a two-suited fit that all of the high honors in both suits are key|pg||
pc|d9|nt|gavin: he is being a little carefull here not wanting to discard a diamond until its late enough in the hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not if hughes ducks|pg||
nt|gavin: u got it :)|pg||
nt|gavin: so if he ducks he can still negotiate it|pg||
nt|lestergold: a club of course may not have been safe from Grainer's point of view|pg||
pc|d5|nt|gavin: cashes a couple clubs and its the same squeeze in a different way|pg||
nt|fabsayc: run the spades now |pg||
nt|rlebi: hence super kcb|pg||
pc|dA|nt|starkist: 3@s might just be a cuebid|pg||
nt|bbramley: and i mean KEY in the literal sense, as in IMPORTANT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if both suits bid first by same hand, is most convenient to use the higher ranking as the key suit|pg||
nt|rlebi: so then it wouldnt matter|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|gavin: jurek can claim|pg||
nt|gavin: but fast ....|pg||
nt|gavin: this actually works as a double squeeze now|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes|pg||
nt|gavin: he has a complete claim because if turner has the 4th spade|pg||
pc|h3|nt|gavin: then he will be squeezed in spades and diamond|pg||
nt|caitlin: wd|pg||
nt|lestergold: tightening up the position|pg||
nt|lestergold: hoping for an endplay here|pg||
nt|gowdy: now tighten them up with trumps|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|nt|fabsayc: must guess to run the diamond|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi martin|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|h4|mc|11|pg||
qx|o78|st||md|4SK62HAT2D4CQJT987,SAQ85H986DQJTCA42,SJ9743HQJ43DK65C3,STHK75DA98732CK65|sv|o|mb|1D|nt|lc: Especially new is  1@C  P  -  Transfers.   Need to know what X means.|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d|nt|mtvesuvius: hmm... something doesn't make sense here :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: That would make more sense now.|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: ok, this works...|pg||
mb|3C|nt|mtvesuvius: lol :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: So, the obvious 1@D by South.  Modern bridge.|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w in 3N here in closed|pg||
mb|3N|nt|lc: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: don't you hate it when those whippersnappers use them newfangled bids, Larry?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dT|nt|mtvesuvius: Pretty untouchable, maybe even an overtrick|pg||
pc|d5|nt|pef: well back to a typical 23 hcp 3nt at both tables|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|lc: EVeryone always asks about bids such as 3@C here by Meck ....|pg||
nt|lc: Does it ASK?|pg||
nt|lc: Does it SHOW?|pg||
nt|lc: The answer is  ....|pg||
nt|lc: "Forcing, good hand."|pg||
nt|lc: It might or might not show/ask.|pg||
nt|lc: But, the partner typically bids 3NT with a stopper.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I think with 1 suit bid it should ask, 2 it should show... A better definition would be "do something intelligent, partner"|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell: "don't take too long here"|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|d3|nt|lc: In general, Adam is right.  But, there is no "definitive" on these 3-level cue-bids.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|mc|9|pg||
qx|c78|st||md|4SK62HAT2D4CQJT987,SAQ85H986DQJTCA42,SJ9743HQJ43DK65C3,STHK75DA98732CK65|sv|o|nt|caitlin: 4@S|pg||
nt|lestergold: if north holds onto th fourth club im not sure it can be done|pg||
nt|fabsayc: there was no defense|pg||
nt|sybarra: so how do you bid  all the keys Bart? |pg||
nt|sybarra: like in last hand  |pg||
nt|bbramley: btw, my responses are the same as for regular KC, but i have special doodads for both queens|pg||
nt|starkist: but looks like they play it as fit so then 2 suit kc|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: then a heart|pg||
mb|1C|nt|fabsayc: good morning and welcome to the Canadian Bridge Federation Finals from Penticton, BC|pg||
nt|Walddk12: Hello Martin x 2|pg||
nt|Walddk12: and George|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6@D is makeable but requires good guessing for sure|pg||
nt|caitlin: does that show 5-4?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: both majors|pg||
nt|gavin: at this vul probably could be 4-4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it came up in set 1|pg||
nt|caitlin: increasingly popular these days|pg||
nt|fabsayc: opponents got to 5@D, and escaped undoubled but down 4|pg||
mb|d|mb|1S|nt|mcarroll: Good evening from Dublin|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4H beatable?|pg||
mb|2C|nt|caitlin: Martin they haven't played this board??|pg||
nt|caitlin: I am confused|pg||
nt|fabsayc: score detroit|pg||
nt|caitlin: oh from set one|pg||
nt|glen: S suspects what the minor is|pg||
nt|susieq: I'm a little surprised Grainger didn't open that 3@C|pg||
mb|d!|an|support|nt|mcarroll: Hi Martin, George|pg||
nt|caitlin: Last year Carruthers came in second for Worlds|pg||
nt|caitlin: we shall see|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3NT may be better|pg||
nt|mcarroll: is this worth a superaccept?|pg||
nt|caitlin: with 9 card fit?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: suit is blocked and north endplayed|pg||
nt|lestergold: yes end play from the club of course as long as Green reads the position|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: 2-1 my boys are making a come back:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: a 2@H opening in first set, caitlin|pg||
nt|caitlin: now I understand, thanks:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: duh|pg||
nt|starkist: 2@d 2.5@h bid?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: looks like a diamond shift trick 2 does it in|pg||
mb|3D|nt|fabsayc: apparently 1NT shows more than a bare 6 count|pg||
nt|bbramley: sure, an early @D ought to beat it|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: for results so far http://www.cbf.ca/BWeek/09files/BWeek09_results.html|pg||
nt|mcarroll: W's interference may have prevented NS from reaching their 5-5 @D fit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: click on date time and event|pg||
nt|mittmouse: lets see if turner makes the good technical play of a low club back not that it helps|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi martin x2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi George|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Hi george|pg||
nt|fabsayc: best they can do is cash club, heart, and play a heart|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Making3|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Lost the play, will claim out the hand when they are done. sorry |pg||
nt|fabsayc: some partnerships use 2@S over 2@H as a relay, would have been handy here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: will come close to duplicating the undertricks here|pg||
nt|caitlin: I actually like Bergen super accepts|pg||
mb|3N|nt|fabsayc: perhaps only 2, declarer drawing 2 trumps and playing diamonds for safety|pg||
nt|sharynr: i would think most play 8-10|pg||
nt|caitlin: what do I really care.....the Maple Leafs going nowhere ever so let's have THREE teams here..Hamilton, downtown and Downsview park..let them ALL in|pg||
nt|fabsayc: jurek needed to put in the queen, forcing declarer to win|pg||
nt|caitlin: and unblock?|pg||
mb|p|nt|shals: would all of you lead the j?|pg||
nt|caitlin: depending if you playing Jack denies|pg||
nt|shals: yes|pg||
nt|caitlin: if Eddie Kantar were here he would have a FIT re: lead of Jack:)|pg||
nt|shals: iguess that is where I'm coming from|pg||
nt|caitlin: regardless of HCP you super accept with 9 card fit.. and more to it|pg||
nt|fabsayc: enlighten us Ellen|pg||
nt|raghavan: llen - since S did not make a bid they must be opening with 12 Points ( We were seeing lighter openings in other USA matches|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes surprising|pg||
nt|caitlin: 8 loser hand I would open|pg||
nt|glen: it helps if W has two ways to bid 3H over 2@S, one to show a great hand|pg||
nt|glen: here E has two bullets (aces) and a fit, so 4@H regardless|pg||
nt|glen: now at this time declarer thinks N's minor is @Cs|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: guess they don't play that|pg||
nt|raghavan: any lead helps|pg||
nt|caitlin: and Darren is not shy|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is a great lead for declarer|pg||
nt|fabsayc: only suit that really matters is spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: e/w have 5 hearts to cash if they get the chance given a heart lead unlikely unless Green finds a double|pg||
nt|starkist: =|pg||
pc|c3|nt|caitlin: I like Rusinow leads by far best|pg||
nt|raghavan: makes easier|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is up to carruthers to figure this out|pg||
nt|bbramley: not an easy defense|pg||
pc|c5|nt|fabsayc: especially in this case|pg||
nt|gowdy: well S has show a 3 suite|pg||
nt|fabsayc: korbel wisely pulls|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
nt|caitlin: gets rid of one heart loser|pg||
pc|dT|nt|shals: the 8 might make pd play the q|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Yes now he doesnt have to worry about the @Ha|pg||
pc|d5|nt|fabsayc: the 4-1 spades may slow things down|pg||
nt|raghavan: Club and HK are favourably placed|pg||
nt|raghavan: another H may go on Clubs|pg||
pc|d2|nt|sharynr: 9 easy tricks here. should not take long|pg||
nt|lestergold: 3n porbably going off as not likley to take dim finesse in 3n|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not sure about 4@S however, seems too much|pg||
nt|lestergold: 5d has reasonable play|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|shals: it still can do damage|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now spade 10|pg||
nt|caitlin: look it how close this match is|pg||
nt|rlebi: he's likely gonna make it now|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: took his 9|pg||
nt|lestergold: even Rolan would have doubts about playing 6d|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: arggh|pg||
nt|lestergold: well my money is with the defenc|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this could make on cross ruff except that fourth heart will be overruffed|pg||
nt|lestergold: this slam has more holes in it than one of them mousetrap cheeses|pg||
nt|gowdy: @D 22 @S king  @C q ruffs out onside  too good for Roland|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but it looks makeable|pg||
nt|glen: and the D took care of that|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|caitlin: yes Jurek (North) might have made another move|pg||
nt|lestergold: can it be made double dummy?|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|lestergold: 12 tricks looks difficult|pg||
nt|fabsayc: apparently no does not have quite the entries to south hand|pg||
nt|lestergold: both made a cue bid too many - the KH metited an un cue bid if that were possible|pg||
nt|gowdy: ani nteresting push vs 3nt with big upside   sort of shows why slams should have better play thanthis as 5 @D could win big|pg||
pc|d7|pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: i truely dont understand a club play|pg||
nt|caitlin: E-W played in safe 3D on board 17 for 4 IMPs|pg||
nt|glen: if S had given a @C ruff, it was just ruffing one of declarer's losers|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: good line of play for the rest|pg||
nt|starkist: now for sure|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|starkist: I like that play|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c8|nt|caitlin: for 6|pg||
pc|h6|nt|starkist: that too|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|raghavan: Ithought playing D A first and back with SQ good|pg||
pc|d9|nt|caitlin: this is not pretty for E-W|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this was safer, although diamond ruff unlikely|pg||
pc|h2|nt|caitlin: but if East ducks what now?|pg||
nt|caitlin: low spade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: easy spade exit|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: lost the thread|pg||
pc|h8|nt|caitlin: np|pg||
nt|caitlin: do we know outcome?|pg||
nt|lestergold: how old are these guys this has the feel of a junior slam|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes forgot they have not taken club ace yet|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they may still be juniors|pg||
pc|sT|nt|caitlin: hmm|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|gowdy: no  not any more|pg||
nt|lestergold: apparently both early twenties|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi guys|pg||
nt|bbramley: hi george|pg||
nt|starkist: shaky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this can not be a real squeeze|pg||
pc|c4|nt|lestergold: someone says one 29|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hey tun|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|mc|10|pg||
qx|o79|st||md|1SJ9643HT82DQ875CJ,SAQHKJ75DKT3CAT84,S2HA964DA2C976532,SKT875HQ3DJ964CKQ|sv|n|nt|lc: A flat 3N here, it seems.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|an|ART, STR, F|nt|mtvesuvius: 3NT is pretty simple, maybe an overtrick or 2|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H!|an|5+ spades or 11-13 bal|nt|barnets: fleisher  needs some swingy boards quickly|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Strong @C-ers love to be at this vulnerability.|pg||
mb|1N!|an|asking|nt|lc: It tends to keep the opponents silent, the way we like it.  :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S!|an|5+ !ss|nt|bigtrain: 1NT is control ask|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|an|asking|nt|bigtrain: 2@S shows 5+@S and 0-2 controls|pg||
nt|pef: oh come on, larry, do any opps keep you and David silent?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT is a further ask|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D!|an|4+ !ds|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|bigtrain: 3@D is @D (conincidentally)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: A natural bid? The world must be coming to an end.|pg||
nt|lc: At the local duplicate, the players would bid  1N-2H-2S-3N -- and not get as much value per bid for their entry fee.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|mtvesuvius: or in the CR for that matter :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i said it was conincidental  :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: ok, good :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Weichsel: "you start at 17 balanced?" Meck: "yes, but I ca upgrade 16 if I want to"|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|thegarve:  22 down is possible that 19 losts really hurt and made life difficult|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|lc: I won't have to put this deal in my Bridge World report.  If anyone Rubin or Ekeblad pay me enough, I can leave out  76.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|nt|lc: Rubin or Granovetter, that is.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg||
nt|lc: I have a running joke with Nick (Nickell) that it is $60 per board to leave out any of his errors.  He won't have to pay me anything this match since he hasn't played one board.|pg||
pc|h5|nt|mtvesuvius: how much do bribes start at, Larry?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s2|nt|mtvesuvius: :)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c5|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|s7|nt|barnets: declarer still studying the opening lead in the closed|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|barnets: same contract|pg||
pc|h6|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|lc: I would have bet big $$ on same contract.|pg||
mc|10|nt|lc: In fact, I'd expect at 100 tables, that all 100 are in 3NT.  |pg||
nt|lc: Then again, I wouldn't have predictged 5@CXX on 76.|pg||
nt|barnets: the @C j coming on trick one was a big help|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: on BBO? 2 will have passed it out :)|pg||
nt|pef: oh 2-3 would be in 4s|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "looks like one of them will take the last trick; I can decide who to give it to" W: "give it to me" Meck: "OK, I overtook and gave the last trick to the @s J"|pg||
pg||
qx|c79|st||md|1SJ9643HT82DQ875CJ,SAQHKJ75DKT3CAT84,S2HA964DA2C976532,SKT875HQ3DJ964CKQ|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: np operator|pg||
nt|caitlin: with 15 and pd could have 17...last board... should make a move|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey great convention, gets you 400 every time|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we missed the key defensive play|pg||
nt|lestergold: well a dent in the lead perhaps altho could be in 3n in the open going off too|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: david grainger wins the Lord Yarborough cup|pg||
mb|1N!|an|14+-17|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: a little smaller than the Stanley Cup|pg||
nt|sharynr: is this 1NT an upgrade or part of the range?|pg||
nt|susieq: systemically that shows a 4 card major and a longer minor|pg||
mb|2H|an|transfer|nt|susieq: at least according to what I have here|pg||
nt|caitlin: so this is the finals of the CNTC|pg||
nt|glen: 4@C is a splinter, and as you can see from the E hand, partnerships have to agree on how little it can have for working high card points|pg||
nt|fabsayc: east hand may actually be above their minimum, but poorly placed|pg||
nt|glen: 4@D here, as played by many experts, is "last train" - last bid below 4@H - it says I like my hand, but may or may not have a @D card|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so much depends on cue bid style|pg||
nt|fabsayc: last train has its own set of problems|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: seems like a bid showing majors for me|pg||
nt|susieq: oh my mistake- it's a weak notrump, so it just shows values|pg||
nt|sharynr: or just a good old fashioned penalty double|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they play Woolsey?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: aha|pg||
nt|sharynr: pretty good weakie :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if grainger establishes the spades west must ruff the fourth, leaving losing heart in dummy|pg||
nt|gowdy: 4@S  and I think bid now|pg||
nt|lestergold: 4s will be bid quickly and down quickly|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not the least of which is easts 4@S can be ace or king|pg||
nt|glen: for one of the famous Gitelman articles: http://www.imp-bridge.nl/articles/2over1b.htm|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|glen: this is before in moved from toronto, and now names conventions on the songs of vegas acts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna is out of bids in my opinion|pg||
nt|glen: *this was before he|pg||
nt|glen: yup, he was worth 1 try, not 2|pg||
nt|glen: unless their splinters promise a moose (grizzly in BC)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: ew needed to get in the bidding here|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3N would fare fine|pg||
nt|mcarroll: who will bid NT?|pg||
nt|raghavan: W I presume|pg||
nt|caitlin: I might have bid 2H with Nader's hand|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hanna|pg||
nt|mcarroll: if E bids 3@S W may venture 3NT|pg||
nt|raghavan: E will bid again S and W 3NT |pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3nt by west down on spade lead|pg||
nt|gowdy: ah it will take a while |pg||
nt|mittmouse: 4s is cols from the n side|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: easy 3@S, and 2@D can be made|pg||
nt|sharynr: risky pass, David should expect a void|pg||
nt|fabsayc: bidding may be riskier|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: this should go down|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is a skinny 2N|pg||
nt|fabsayc: several chances to lead spades|pg||
nt|mittmouse: cold|pg||
pc|c7|nt|caitlin: so then Canada and Mexico vie for spot in Brazil|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|fabsayc: possibly 3@S now|pg||
nt|caitlin: Nader Hanna is President of Canadian Bridge Federation which sponsors the CNTC's|pg||
nt|bbramley: looked like 2@D was cold also|pg||
nt|fabsayc: biddable is not so clear|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|raghavan: RE has bid twice- 5 cards why develop|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|caitlin: Bermuda used to be part of that but has spot in Central American zone|pg||
nt|caitlin: for Canadian Bridge Federation CNTC see: http://www.cbf.ca/CNTC/|pg||
nt|caitlin: is this a 2NT catch up bid?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just an overbid in my view|pg||
nt|bbramley: must still guess the @SJ, although east is likely to help on lead|pg||
pc|d4|nt|bbramley: that lead won't cost|pg||
nt|gambit: every lead gives away something, endplayed trick ! ]\|pg||
pc|d5|nt|raghavan: H lead prob|pg||
pc|dK|nt|fabsayc: yikes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: penguins win|pg||
nt|gavin: ship itttttt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: needs the diamond finesse|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|c3|nt|caitlin: Darren's 9 asks for spade|pg||
nt|raghavan: C 9|pg||
pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: declarer on the winning line|pg||
nt|lestergold: an auction likely to  be duplicated tho|pg||
nt|lestergold: a club club and club wuill give declarer a losing option to go down 2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s5|nt|sharynr: excellent result for N-S|pg||
nt|caitlin: Darren Wolpert (not to be confused with his brother Galvin) and Czyzowicz are aggressive bidders|pg||
nt|raghavan: S can take 2 Spade only|pg||
pc|s3|nt|gowdy: not sure about that  north has an interesting hand  depends on meathods |pg||
nt|lestergold: the 4s bid is normal becuase either it makes or if it doesnt it prevents e/w  however here i think e/w liimit was 3 dims|pg||
pc|sA|nt|fabsayc: indeed, 3NT makes EW|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and the carnage if NS declare, nobody wants to know|pg||
nt|caitlin: I believe reverse smith echo here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we have moose here also|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|caitlin: sorry Gavin |pg||
nt|caitlin: it is Darren|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now turner is confused, looks like partner was trying to find entry for a heart through declarer|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c2|nt|raghavan: 2 S + C A + H A|pg||
nt|caitlin: so Wolpert's @C7 says I do not like hearts|pg||
nt|mcarroll: it needed an initial @S lead to beat 3NT|pg||
pc|s7|nt|caitlin: well Roy did bid hearts|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes but down only 1 this way|pg||
nt|caitlin: true|pg||
pc|dT|nt|caitlin: and Wolpert can't be the one to lead them:)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|Walddk12: Welcome to Cliff Gillis|pg||
nt|mittmouse: ok guys be back later|pg||
nt|capercliff: hi folks|pg||
nt|caitlin: may find spade lead now|pg||
nt|caitlin: should find it|pg||
nt|raghavan: H  is 9th trick|pg||
nt|raghavan: He may duck again hoping D K with S|pg||
nt|caitlin: interesting re: Green's 3@H bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: of course it ASKS|pg||
nt|caitlin: if Green had hearts he would bid 3N|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|cA|nt|lestergold: club club and club south may have ruffed with ace and run the Js|pg||
nt|gambit: claiming quickly |pg||
pc|c5|pc|s8|nt|raghavan: ducks|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|d9|nt|fabsayc: if partner is prone to 4 card overcalls it somewhat reduces the chances that 4@S is either a sac or make|pg||
nt|gowdy: True  but N may have some gadgets to open  I'm not sure what they play|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|caitlin: Larry Cohen at www.larryco.com has lots of info on when these bids are asking or telling|pg||
pc|hT|nt|raghavan: Now S may be squeezed|pg||
nt|fabsayc: south squeezed now|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h8|mc|9|pg||
qx|o80|st||md|2S52HKQ64DJ2CQJ865,SJT94HA732DAQCAKT,SA76HT85DT87654C3,SKQ83HJ9DK93C9742|sv|e|mb|1C!|an|STR, SRT, F|nt|lc: Meck has been unusually jolly this match.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|an|8-10 BAL|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 8-10 BAL|pg||
nt|lc: 2@D for me with North's hand at these colors.|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: just what meckwell wants here, also, an incredibly routine 4s|pg||
mb|2N|an|asks for Majors, may be unbal|nt|lc: I am not sitting there and watching the Meckwell machinery.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2N = waiting|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I would too, Larry|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D!|an|4 !ss, not 4!hs|nt|bigtrain: 3@D = 4@S, not 4@H|pg||
nt|lc: I'd expect a 13-year old to bid 3@D.  No?|pg||
nt|lc: Don't you young guys bid 'em up?|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|mtvesuvius: I might missort my hand as an excuse, but I think I'd content myself with 2 :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: I'm sure Ekeblad is not enjoying sitting there watching this auction.|pg||
nt|thegarve:  another dud hand - suits the leaders|pg||
nt|lc: Bergen used to always complain when his teammates told him : "My opponents played perfectly."  Marty didn't like to let them have room to play perfectly.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck said to Ekeblad when he opened 1@c on this hand: "Just like when you play rubber bridge, eh, Russ?"|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|lc: Not that 2@D would have done any good on THIS particular deal.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sT|nt|mtvesuvius: Nope. 3NT will roll in regardless|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sQ|nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "I'm not going down" as W started to think|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|c4|nt|lc: Meck is very good about saying that.  Does so often at IMPs.  It is sportsmanlike of him.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h2|nt|lc: However, I am usually sad when he says it to me.  :(|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c80|st||md|2S52HKQ64DJ2CQJ865,SJT94HA732DAQCAKT,SA76HT85DT87654C3,SKQ83HJ9DK93C9742|sv|e|nt|fabsayc: was that 9 or 10 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: looked like only 9|pg||
nt|caitlin: we have to remember that there are also novices and low intermediates in spec who may not know when such bids are asking or telling|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not too many in penticton area however|pg||
nt|glen: the bears ate them|pg||
nt|glen: an ottawa bear is in pendiction for the tourney|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he did that fast, guess would have taken much longer if in 4|pg||
nt|bbramley: how many tricks did he take, operator?  if he guessed spades he made 10|pg||
mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|mcbruce:  The CSTC is over after three quarters, with Hobart winning after a big 3Q.|pg||
mb|2D|nt|mcarroll: Hi Cliff|pg||
nt|glen: penticton|pg||
nt|fabsayc: obvious you have never encountered a moose in the wild :)|pg||
mb|2N|an|bal gf|nt|fabsayc: welcome Cliff|pg||
nt|caitlin: so when is final game?|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: cheers guys|pg||
nt|fabsayc: transfer advance of 1@D|pg||
nt|caitlin: E-W make 3S on last hand|pg||
nt|gavin: this match ends tomorrow|pg||
nt|gavin: stanley cup is over ! |pg||
nt|caitlin: hockey Gavin:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we are on at 9:30, 12, 4:30 and 7 tomorrow for the remaining 4 sets|pg||
nt|fabsayc: all time PDT|pg||
nt|caitlin: ohhhhhhhhh|pg||
nt|glen: S has a good @H fit, but soft values in the other suits, and no ruffing value|pg||
nt|mcbruce:  his means we have two sets of boards, one at each table, so my duplication accuracy will be put to the test...but nobody will wait for a board|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: the claim was for making 3 :)|pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|gavin: 4-3 pittsburgh, thats practically like bringing the cup to canada|pg||
nt|fabsayc: double support|pg||
mb|3S|nt|fabsayc: showing hearts, adds a lot of possible new sequences |pg||
nt|capercliff: is this only after a X?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i am not sure, is good any time in my opinion|pg||
nt|gavin: about as close as were gonna get for a while|pg||
nt|caitlin: "practically"|pg||
nt|fabsayc: how do you figure that gavin|pg||
nt|gavin: our young superstar wins|pg||
nt|lestergold: tame 3n here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a quackery|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: these transfer responses ar gaining popularity everywhere|pg||
nt|capercliff: i quite like it after a double, puts the doubler on lead but requires lots of notes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this tricky lead is going to backfire|pg||
nt|fabsayc: erase my last comment, lost the plot :)|pg||
nt|gavin: vancouver is the only canadian team with a hope|pg||
nt|shals: I agree but great story  for the underdogs|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3@C??|pg||
nt|shals: I hope!!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hope springs eternal, go whitecaps|pg||
mb|4S|nt|starkist: not beating now|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 3NT is the simplest bid available|pg||
mb|p|nt|shals: yes|pg||
nt|caitlin: Gavin would you bid 3C?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: gosh i must be old, i pass in second seat|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is risky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but quite a play problem|pg||
nt|raghavan: Which is the 9th trick? |pg||
nt|mcarroll: He has to find one of the @SJ,@DQ or @CQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: will probably attempt to combine chances|pg||
nt|raghavan: C Q difficult|pg||
nt|gowdy: looks like coffee ( or wine ) time here|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: 6@S|pg||
nt|caitlin: moi aussi|pg||
nt|shals: me too|pg||
nt|gavin: i wouldnt open :)|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|fabsayc: cash top cards in one minor|pg||
nt|lestergold: with hearts 3/3 and the qc as entry no probs in this contract|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not that tame, saved by heart split and club ace right|pg||
nt|glen: dummy comes down and declarer thinks should I work out on how 4@S would do - no first, play this|pg||
pc|dA|nt|gavin: but no i wouldnt bid|pg||
pc|d4|nt|caitlin: 3@C Fit showing jump by passed hand|pg||
nt|gavin: perfect hand to pass and make an unusual 2NT bid later|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not bergen?|pg||
nt|caitlin: by passed hand?|pg||
nt|caitlin: unlikely|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey just asking|pg||
nt|caitlin: why not drury then?|pg||
nt|caitlin: :))|pg||
nt|shals: yes it is|pg||
nt|caitlin: Greetings|pg||
nt|lestergold: thats why i said it was tame as the cards lie not in an absoluiter sense|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi caitlin|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Mike|pg||
nt|caitlin: is Karen our operator?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but does he have a losing alternative, perhaps not|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Karen:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: I almost fell asleep in the sun:)|pg||
nt|lestergold: i dont think so he has to establish clubs and that means spades will be established and he cannot lose the lead again|pg||
nt|lestergold: so its a one shot contract|pg||
pc|hA|nt|sharynr: good stop by E-W|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hey Gowdy:)|pg||
nt|mcbruce:  four rounds to play in COPC; we'll announce leaders when posted|pg||
pc|h5|nt|fabsayc: down 1 or numerous overtricks on this defense|pg||
nt|caitlin: welcome|pg||
pc|h9|nt|caitlin: agree|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: what if korbel ducks two clubs|pg||
nt|fabsayc: then the hearts squeeze hanna|pg||
pc|h2|nt|sharynr: looks like N-S make 21H so even down 1 is ok|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry, they are playing too fast and lost thread |pg||
nt|sharynr: but that was a reasonable shift|pg||
nt|mittmouse: technically hanna should now try a club if that is wrong he has to take a s finesse|pg||
nt|sharynr: good point G|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so saved by the diamond 9 then|pg||
pc|h8|nt|mcarroll: or possibly cash @Ss to check if they are 3-3 or the J falls, then 2 top @Cs|pg||
nt|raghavan: finessing towards w is likely - since W may not know that H K is alone|pg||
nt|caitlin: he will finesse West for @DQ|pg||
nt|lestergold: Hanna will try K then lead low to the Q better odds than playing anything else|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|caitlin: I think any bid showing spade support would have turned Turner on:)|pg||
pc|c6|nt|fabsayc: crosby doing pushups with the cup|pg||
nt|caitlin: Green gave count|pg||
nt|lestergold: Hanna knows that the ace will be held up otherwise|pg||
nt|caitlin: so David Grainger and Daniel Korbel|pg||
nt|lestergold: better unblock hearts now he will of course|pg||
nt|fabsayc: did he really pitch a heart?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: y|pg||
nt|lestergold: if he did hes dead|pg||
pc|cA|nt|shals: woops this is going to be tough|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i have a crystal ball tuner, Mike|pg||
pc|c3|nt|gavin: 2 down with a winning finesse|pg||
nt|lestergold: it looks misere from here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pitching a spade gives up any chance of a make|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: for me 3@C would be clubs only|pg||
nt|caitlin: I see 7 tricks|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|fabsayc: good save against 2@H|pg||
nt|caitlin: upside down|pg||
nt|glen: yes, but he was doing it in hope to entice a @S play|pg||
pc|d5|nt|caitlin: no X no trouble?|pg||
nt|shals: maybe|pg||
nt|caitlin: let's remember these guys may be TIRED|pg||
nt|gavin: oh ya, this is a gruelling event to say the least|pg||
pc|d9|nt|caitlin: for me FSJ|pg||
nt|caitlin: by passed hand and in competition|pg||
nt|caitlin: they didn't get here without lots of play|pg||
nt|shals: wouldn't we all..|pg||
nt|gavin: its an achievement to be in the finals but the losing team probably wont feel that way|pg||
nt|shals: true..|pg||
nt|caitlin: hmm|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|capercliff: this is going well for declarer|pg||
pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: north will just keep discarding|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Open Room got to 4@D on 3|pg||
nt|gambit: To all you hockey fans Pitt wins 2-1 in a nailbiter |pg||
nt|glen: though the D can clearly see that a @H discard is called for|pg||
nt|glen: i.e. don't trust that @S discard at all|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry too fast |pg||
pc|hT|nt|fabsayc: down 2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|caitlin: Yes Cam this has been a topic woven in with bridge:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: Detroit is a big bridge city|pg||
nt|lestergold: why hold on to the pesky diamonds|pg||
nt|bbramley: south has a lock to play @Cs - east has shown 16 HCP already and is marked with at most 3 @Cs|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|capercliff: then he will be endplayed|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is not going to make this way|pg||
pc|dK|nt|raghavan: comes to S J|pg||
pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: no, 3 tricks to defense|pg||
nt|caitlin: maybe so|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h7|nt|caitlin: wd|pg||
nt|raghavan: good|pg||
nt|caitlin: Grainger is from Toronto and Korbel from Kitchener/Waterloo Ontario|pg||
pc|d7|nt|fabsayc: oh your right|pg||
nt|capercliff: hmm|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but nothing to do|pg||
nt|capercliff: this strange|pg||
nt|mcarroll: very|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think this was best line|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes as it turned out|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Not so sure|pg||
nt|gowdy: I'm sure tht was miss click|pg||
nt|gowdy: or not|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|fabsayc: no ruff here operator|pg||
nt|capercliff: yes 11|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 11 tricks should be right|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s7|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg||
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qx|o81|st||md|3SKJ65H5DKQT9752CJ,SAT97HQ98D4CK6542,S4HAKJT74DAJ86CT3,SQ832H632D3CAQ987|sv|o|nt|pef: it's worse when they tell you that before the opening lead :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: It saves an hour or two sometimes... especially if they were playing Granovetter-Rubin :)|pg||
mb|2D!|an|diamonds & !hs|mb|p|nt|pef: well finally, n/s get a chance to get a plus score |pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 2@d = 10-15 with 5+@h 4+@d|pg||
nt|lc: Here is the Ekeblad-WEichsel summary :  http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=418&pid=131|pg||
nt|thegarve:  e/w have mirror hands - certainly not N/S|pg||
nt|lc: They really should have the deceny to sit East-West, because every time I go to abbreviate their names I think better of it ( too confusing to call them E - W ).|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I was thinking that a few rounds ago also :)|pg||
mb|2N!|an|FG, asking|mb|p|mb|3D!|nt|thegarve:  7 card support for a two-suiter and only a 2NT response|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Spec suggests it's time for exclusion blackwood in a black suit :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|nt|barnets: a good convention for south might be blackwood|pg||
nt|lc: That's George Jacobs' favorite ...|pg||
nt|barnets: or redwood|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: But Weichsel sits East, so it would still be confusing to use E & W|pg||
nt|lc: I suspect 4@D is ace-asking.|pg||
nt|pef: judging from the amount of time being spent--not clear if ekeblad believes that to be the case|pg||
mb|p|mb|5D|an|2 keycards, no Q|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: apparently not|pg||
nt|barnets: forget?|pg||
nt|lc: Surely, South had the hand for it.|pg||
nt|lc: They have not exactly been steady --  a tough system to learn for a not-regular partnership.|pg||
nt|thegarve:  4@d over 2@D is RKB?|pg||
nt|pef: seems like he meant it as blackwood, but ekeblad didn't think so.  now weichsel tring to decide what to do|pg||
nt|lc: 5@D would not be a possible response.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Ekeblad wrote that 5@d showed he likes his hand|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: This is why there are screens :)|pg||
nt|thegarve:  he'll pass|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 5@d could be void showing with some   of KCs|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Weichsel said that 4@d just showed he was coming in diamonds|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: Although Blackwood is not alertable anyway, so this wouldn't cause an ethical problem.|pg||
nt|pef: ok, a bit of thrill for the crowd but arrived at a normal contract that shouldn't take more than a moment to play|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Now verbally, Russ says he's shown a good hand, 6-4 in hearts & diamonds, 2 keycards, no Q (I don't know why he wrote "I like my hand"|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I'm told that 4@d was "Optional RKC" and 5@d is a Max w/2 Aces|pg||
pc|cA|nt|lc: So, Ekeblad likes his hand,  Weichsel thought 4@D was not BW -- but  5@D is now showing 2 keycards?|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|mc|11|nt|Vugraphu1: Sorry, when Weichsel wrote @d on the pad I guess he meant Keycard in @ds - might have said that softly and I didn't hear it|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Short break for Meck and Eke to smoke|pg||
nt|lc: Earlier this week, the teams up 40 seemed to get dealt VERY swingy boards at the end.|pg||
nt|lc: They were complaining that it was "fixed."|pg||
nt|lc: Now today, these boards are just wat the NICKELL team ordered.  So far, anyway.|pg||
nt|lc: Did they go outside to smoke?|pg||
nt|lc: Earlier this week, there was an incident.|pg||
nt|barnets: nickell were down by over 100 to fleisher the first time and lost by 7|pg||
nt|lc: Without naming names, let's just say that smoking in the hotel is not allowed.|pg||
nt|pef: oh comeon, name names, we won't tell anyone :)|pg||
nt|lc: Several years ago, there was also a smoking incident in this same hotel.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: If you want the names, you can do the research yourself :)|pg||
nt|lc: Again, not naming names.|pg||
nt|lc: The one in 2006 (?) involved a fire alarm during play.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: The answers are hidden secretly at www.usbf.org :)|pg||
nt|pef: thanks, specs for the names!|pg||
nt|lc: THis year, all play is in private hotel rooms -- the beds were removed.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Interesting idea|pg||
nt|Walddk2: what a shame, I need one|pg||
nt|lc: Each hotel room (on the floor above the lobby) has the beds removed, the mirrors covered, etc.|pg||
nt|lc: Each room has 1 table with screen -- 4 chairs -- room for Vugraph operator -- not much else.|pg||
nt|lc: Every board in this event was played that way.  No main "ballroom."|pg||
nt|lc: The "smoking incident" was when some players thought it a good idea to smoke in the bathroom of the hotel room.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Interesting, nice format for a smaller event|pg||
nt|pef: Connie Goldberg tells me the women had balconies in their playing rooms at the women's trials--so no problems there in that much more civilized event|pg||
nt|lc: While I am chatting, there are so many people that made this event run well.|pg||
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qx|c81|st||md|3SKJ65H5DKQT9752CJ,SAT97HQ98D4CK6542,S4HAKJT74DAJ86CT3,SQ832H632D3CAQ987|sv|o|nt|fabsayc: what happened?|pg||
nt|sharynr: and Hanna must have taken that line|pg||
nt|gavin: hughest hand is way too strong for 2nt in my opinion|pg||
nt|gavin: very difficult hand to bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no down 1 on this defense|pg||
mb|1H|nt|fabsayc: the interesting defense would have been to start with a high club|pg||
mb|p|nt|mittmouse: i think he must have done it right good technique by hanna|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yikes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna needed 6 hearts for his overcall, so finesse long odds at the end|pg||
nt|lestergold: operator says it was a heart discarded|pg||
mb|2D|nt|sharynr: Would anyone open east hand and if so, what|pg||
nt|gavin: too strong for 2C then 2nt too|pg||
nt|shals: and hockey city|pg||
nt|gavin: so many slams where partner doesnt show interest|pg||
nt|gavin: 1D is a reasonable choice |pg||
nt|raghavan: Part score deal|pg||
nt|caitlin: a constructive 2@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: in which case unless im missing something it was a bad error|pg||
mb|3S|nt|susieq: I would open 3@D but I'm a little crazy|pg||
nt|caitlin: whereas if he were weaker he would first bid 1NT then 2@S|pg||
nt|lestergold: otherwise  2 spades 2 clubs 5 hearts and contract made|pg||
nt|starkist: all I know is I'm leading the @h j on this hand|pg||
nt|bbramley: @H8 is the key card|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: both k's are working|pg||
nt|susieq: that's fit showing|pg||
nt|caitlin: Turner will pass I assume|pg||
nt|gambit: Will C balance? I thk y|pg||
nt|gavin: this auction would almost always be 4-6 or 5-6|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to picture partner with a hand good enough for this action that doesnt have 6 diamonds |pg||
nt|gavin: turner has a monster|pg||
nt|gavin: (given the state of the auction)|pg||
nt|gavin: with  aspade stopper and 3 diamonds and the queen of hearts|pg||
nt|gavin: i think he owes hughes 2 or 3NT|pg||
nt|gowdy: 1nt = @C|pg||
nt|gowdy: suit or a lead|pg||
mb|4C|nt|capercliff: interesting choice to bid 3N|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they may regret not playing 4@S|pg||
nt|capercliff: 4333 often plays at least a trick better in 4 of a major|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Yes 4@S an easier contract|pg||
nt|fabsayc: neither is very good|pg||
nt|gambit: yes, 3D, and the QH, extras given his pass, but monster, No.....a couiple modest redeeming features, |pg||
nt|mcarroll: On Board 1 I see they did prefer the Moysian @S fit rather than @Cs and it cost 11 imps|pg||
nt|caitlin: they play constructive so 2@S 8-10 HCP|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@S is not forward going, but Jurek still tempted|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and 3@S is preemptive not constructive|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes some play 1@S 2@S 3@S stop|pg||
nt|caitlin: I personally don't like it|pg||
nt|mcarroll: as there is no entry to Dummy, on a @D lead to take advantage of a discard on the @HA 4 @S goes down|pg||
nt|raghavan: S is trying to prevent EW going to 3H and later if he ventured - may be doubled - Of course he does not know N hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that does not automatically beat hand|pg||
nt|mcarroll: And there are slow @C losers|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: nice hand for fit showing|pg||
mb|4S|nt|capercliff: even with both K's working hard to see 10 tricks|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|caitlin: given their lead there is no reason to push to 4|pg||
mb|d|nt|gavin: he cant have a better hand|pg||
nt|raghavan: We cannot find fault with N for his bidding|pg||
nt|caitlin: well if they play 1S 2S 3S stop we can|pg||
nt|starkist: darn need to play xfer lead doubles|pg||
mb|p|nt|sharynr: 4@S might have been reached (and made)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but i think green should have tried 3@D in that case|pg||
nt|mittmouse: this is a steal im surprised green didnt bid 3d then hanna would bid 4s |pg||
nt|sharynr: but as is the case when both sides make a major suit game, the bidding might not have stopped at the 4 level|pg||
nt|gavin: funny to balance your opponents from 1D into 3NT|pg||
nt|caitlin: how true|pg||
nt|raghavan: N has maximum for his 2S bid|pg||
nt|glen: the 2/1 way to make a 3 card limit raise - 1NT (forcing/semi-forcing), then 3 of the major|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: good things H's are 3-3 or this would be really ugly|pg||
nt|capercliff: cancel that|pg||
nt|capercliff: even I could make 4 tricks with this @h suit:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: only in no trump|pg||
nt|mcarroll: lol|pg||
nt|caitlin: what out what you ask for|pg||
nt|gavin: very interesting hand|pg||
nt|gavin: czyz will have an easy time finding hte club shift|pg||
mb|5D|nt|fabsayc: seems down if defense passive|pg||
nt|lestergold: e/w have stayed low nough to make  a plus|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: the king of spades asks his partner to unblock an honor or give him upside down count|pg||
nt|caitlin: he showed it with constructive raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: this will go down quickly |pg||
nt|gambit: as a plus |pg||
nt|fabsayc: i predict slowly|pg||
nt|gambit: you know David? Methodical |pg||
nt|gavin: when south gets in with the first diamond|pg||
nt|gavin: he will undoubtedly lead a spade|pg||
nt|gavin: since his partner lead the king, thats their power lead he knows that he has a GREAT spade suit|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to know if he has 5 or 6|pg||
nt|lestergold: bad spade break and poor communications with dummy would make higher level contracts very precarious|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe|pg||
mb|p|pc|h8|nt|gambit: 3-2 diamonds would work losing 1 diamond, 3 spades|pg||
nt|rlebi: 11 tricks now|pg||
pc|hA|nt|fabsayc: some problems now for declarer|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the simplest solution, finesse the club|pg||
nt|caitlin: he has to|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
nt|fabsayc: brave play, minimizing the loss|pg||
pc|dA|nt|lestergold: why rush with ace of dim?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: was a mistake but afraid hanna would draw partners lone trump|pg||
pc|d3|nt|caitlin: then how back to hand?|pg||
nt|caitlin: finessing @Ds against North??|pg||
pc|d2|nt|sharynr: i am sure NS would have pushed to th5 5-level|pg||
nt|caitlin: lucky spade position|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|mittmouse: look at what that fit showing jump did for graingers hand he would have bid to the 5 level if necessary|pg||
nt|lestergold: well had Hanna tried 8s it would have been very revealing!!|pg||
nt|mittmouse: carruthers must have missed a spot|pg||
nt|starkist: teasing @d10 play|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: this is why i hesistated with my comment, was not at all clear|pg||
nt|gavin: that was an odd play|pg||
nt|fabsayc: diamond lead would have made this tougher, but i think still makes|pg||
nt|glen: yes, the @D lead head towards a forcing defense|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|glen: the idea being to play @Ds at all chances|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|lestergold: contract still in jeapordy tho|pg||
mc|12|nt|gavin: and darren playing the queen of diamonds was bad also|pg||
nt|gavin: only lying to his partner|pg||
nt|caitlin: this has not been a lucky 3rd or beginning of 4th set for Carruthers team|pg||
nt|gowdy: a new variation  pitch a winner on a loser   but maintain control|pg||
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qx|o82|st||md|4SKTHA842DKQ876CA5,SA87643H97DT4C742,S95HKQT6DAJ52CJT8,SQJ2HJ53D93CKQ963|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: and you don't if you are on 5-1|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Which is a corrolary of yours I suppose :)|pg||
nt|pef: another benefit of BBO--you'd have to shell out big bucks to get advice like that from Larry on a bridge cruise|pg||
nt|lc: Is that a plug?  Thanks.  :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: We are now playing the substitute board 82. The bids will not match these hands. I'll try to tell you hands as I see them.|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pef: well I meant is a plug for roland and bbo, actually :)|pg||
nt|lc: No.   Pass with 6 @S ?|pg||
nt|lc: 1NT by South, of course.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: hmm... we can talk in the meantime I assume :)|pg||
nt|pef: larry, jan just told us, the bidding and board does not match here|pg||
nt|lc: P 1NT  -- Jan???|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So let's try to be quiet while Jan is our radio reporter|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell: A42, At, QT987m K83; Meck: 76, K763, A642, T54|pg||
nt|barnets: correct board up|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Weichsel had KJxxx of spades and led one|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell won and started on diamonds.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: NS took the first diamond, continued spades|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: NS then played a club and Rod played more diamonds. WEichsel is cashing spades. NS have 4 spades and 2 diamonds so far|pg||
pc|sT|mc|7|pg||
qx|c82|st||md|4SKTHA842DKQ876CA5,SA87643H97DT4C742,S95HKQT6DAJ52CJT8,SQJ2HJ53D93CKQ963|sv|n|nt|capercliff: this 4333 9 count is an invite in my book|pg||
nt|gavin: can still find spade shift|pg||
nt|caitlin: they haven't played this board yet|pg||
nt|raghavan: Give credit to E playing small Spades. |pg||
nt|fabsayc: but i think he unblocked hearts before club ruff|pg||
nt|raghavan: and not SJ|pg||
nt|bbramley: but still no reason to duck 2nd @H in either case|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|starkist: true|pg||
mb|1S|nt|capercliff: what to bid...|pg||
nt|caitlin: board 4 OR smart to be in 3@D making|pg||
nt|caitlin: 22|pg||
nt|shals: intersting all over the scoe bd|pg||
nt|caitlin: Karen how did you land up operating in Penticton if you are American?|pg||
nt|glen: for a close final quarter, this table is moving quickly, which is nice for everybody watching|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: not for me :)|pg||
nt|starkist: throwing away down tricks|pg||
mb|d|an|cards|mb|2H|an|spade raise?|nt|capercliff: 2@h is never enough these days|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: British Columbia|pg||
nt|glen: true|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i guess "dont watch" wont work|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no try?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|gavin: monster super accept for cz|pg||
nt|gavin: tough to avoid slam on this hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: joey cant have side ace?|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: its on a finesse but they have so many wasted points|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: but they always bid 3nt|pg||
nt|capercliff: how does everyone feel about 3N?|pg||
nt|sharynr: Silver made 5@d on the second hand, for 8 imps|pg||
mb|3D|nt|caitlin: tell us later:)|pg||
nt|rlebi: no take A no get A|pg||
nt|rlebi: @s|pg||
nt|starkist: risky to bid on|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Silver laughed when he saw dummy: "and hope you make it partner" |pg||
nt|fabsayc: guess that answers my question :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: so i like to have a semblance of a side entry for 3 preempts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3nt is "normal"|pg||
nt|gavin: ok obviously not as tough as i thought|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|gavin: i guess 2nt was 20-22|pg||
nt|caitlin: Board 1 OR Silver bid 1@S over 1@H overcall......did Carruthers assume he had 5?|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: on the bidding declarer probably should finess through N for @SJ to cater for a 4-1 break - which does not cost in this instance|pg||
nt|capercliff: 3@h does jam the auction nicely, you know if you double partner is bound to bid 4m|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is better than 22|pg||
nt|gavin: so darren could see it wasnt going to be great even opposite a super accept|pg||
nt|gavin: i agree|pg||
nt|shals: wouldn't you bid 2c then 2n?|pg||
nt|caitlin: I would|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah, opposite a passed hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 6@D is a reasonable spot with the bonus of making|pg||
nt|caitlin: 2@H will make|pg||
nt|glen: this setups a possible @H discard, and a lot depends on how declarer places the cards|pg||
nt|bbramley: good cash|pg||
pc|sT|nt|mcarroll: 2@H makes|pg||
nt|caitlin: loses 1@H 2@S 2@C|pg||
nt|lestergold: 6c makes as played by west|pg||
nt|caitlin: very tough to get to|pg||
nt|gowdy: Karen  if there is a break in the action tell Green that I shot 78 today   Thanks :)|pg||
nt|caitlin: hey Gowdy awesome:)|pg||
mc|9|nt|sharynr: but both bd 20 and 22 will swing the match the other way, i predict|pg||
nt|caitlin: 6D makes 7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but assuming a direct raise of diamonds was forcing, this is not a strong sequence |pg||
nt|caitlin: run clubs get rid of 2 hearts ruff a heart|pg||
nt|caitlin: all up to North to shoot for it or not|pg||
nt|caitlin: don't love my J9 of @D but hey...life isn't perfect|pg||
pg||
qx|o83|st||md|1S5HAQ7DJT543CAKT3,SAT6HKJ95DA987C62,SQJ982H864DKQ2C87,SK743HT32D6CQJ954|sv|e|nt|lc: One of them, Jan Martel, is the Vugraph operator at this table.  She worked 25 hours a day.|pg||
nt|lc: So many others -- but back to bridge.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: we'll be skipping board 82 for the moment - one of the players inadvertently saw a few cards from another player's hand and the director is making a new board 82. We won't be able ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: to show it to you but I will do the best I can to tell you what's happening when we play it|pg||
mb|1D!|an|can be short, can have longer !ss|mb|d|mb|1S|nt|mtvesuvius: Does the CR know this also I assume?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: radio transmission kind of|pg||
nt|lc: That happened to David and me a few days ago. We bid to +2210 and then were told they screwed it up at the other table -- and redealt it.  Ugh.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Yes, the board has been removed from both rooms|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|an|denies 3!ss|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|lc: Supposedly, PASS denying 3-card support (when playing SUPP X's) is not alertable (in normal non-screen) events.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|nt|lc: I think it should be.  And I alert it. |pg||
nt|lc: It is info -- I think opps are entitled to it.|pg||
nt|lc: So, I am breaking the rules. Sue me.|pg||
nt|pef: yes, I don't think it makes any sense that double is alerted and pass isn't--someone is going to have to explain the logic of that to me|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: The pass used to have to be alerted I think|pg||
nt|lc: Also, I alert the raise promising 4.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Before we started this board, Meck said "remind me or I'll mess up my scorecard" After he lead, Rod reminded him, but it was too late|pg||
nt|thegarve:   a sad 13 out on board 80 in the same 4@s contract|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hT|nt|lc: Seems as if dec failed to draw trump (on 80) -- making this match a runaway.|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|lc: Just watching this table, the players might think the score for the set is 0-0.|pg||
nt|thegarve:  needs a miracle|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|s4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h3|nt|pef: yes, he took much more a mp line--however, he wasn't favored with the club lead which made 4s pretty much laydown|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|h8|pc|s7|pg||
nt|lc: It is not easy to shake off -1600 on the first board.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s2|pg||
nt|lc: Anyway, maybe we should talk about why N-S are in a 5-1 fit here.|pg||
nt|lc: If North wanted to compete, I'd expect X -- "cards" at his second turn.|pg||
nt|lc: Not a rebid in his 5-card suit when partner can't have decent support.|pg||
nt|barnets: 2@CX more interseting contract|pg||
nt|lc: Had he doubled (cards), South would gladly have passed.|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Double should be just general values, and would get them some IMPs most likely|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|lc: And, we'll never know what would have happened.|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
mc|6|nt|lc: The LAW of Total Tricks (haven't mentioned it all session) says :  With a 5-1 fit and a 5-3 fit, it is better to play the 5-3.|pg||
nt|lc: Well, that isn't what it really says.  :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That's Burn's Law, not yours|pg||
nt|lc: His law -- is have more trumps than opps.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Exactly|pg||
nt|barnets: zia hamman stopped in 5@D after blackwood in81|pg||
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qx|c83|st||md|1S5HAQ7DJT543CAKT3,SAT6HKJ95DA987C62,SQJ982H864DKQ2C87,SK743HT32D6CQJ954|sv|e|nt|capercliff: are both pairs playing a 15-17 nt?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i like plan A, that was an ugly hand|pg||
nt|gavin: np|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is Gavin Wolpert|pg||
nt|caitlin: welcome:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: forcing but weak caitlin, then 3@C would be limited reverse and not forcing|pg||
nt|fabsayc: do you think Mr Kokish will visit the open room|pg||
nt|shals: should we expcet him/|pg||
nt|caitlin: if so 110 isn't right score|pg||
nt|gowdy: thanks  nice job|pg||
nt|lestergold: my pleasure Caitlin|pg||
nt|bbramley: tough to give up on a beat|pg||
mb|1D|nt|fabsayc: potentially 0 cover cards|pg||
nt|sharynr: A unusual weak 2 by Hanna|pg||
nt|susieq: that's a pretty heavy 2@S bid nv|pg||
nt|gavin: ty|pg||
nt|fabsayc: which is why Jurek did not try for slam over 4@D|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he might have been facing xxxx in diamonds for example|pg||
nt|shals: expect ie|pg||
nt|caitlin: just ask Eric to go to Peter Chung King and he will come to ANY table:)|pg||
nt|shals: ahh|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not doubled|pg||
nt|caitlin: great response by Jim:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is East Jim Green|pg||
nt|glen: np, 1st priority is to get right result in|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
nt|glen: 2nd priority is to get Korbel to update his bridge blog|pg||
nt|glen: with actual play of hand|pg||
nt|rlebi: quite a few tricks available|pg||
nt|susieq: he's got some hands from the Cavendish in Vegas to put in as well before he gets to this :)|pg||
mb|d|nt|glen: Korbel alerts pass of 2NT to mean "i'm not blogging this hand"|pg||
mb|1S|nt|bbramley: opening 3@H would have blown out N/S|pg||
nt|starkist: I don't like to have 7 for wk 2|pg||
mb|d|nt|caitlin: btw Mohmad Ali is at the NHL game wearing a Red Wing Jersey:) *IMPORTANT information:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i have advertising space available on my chest also :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: anybody know what 4@C is|pg||
nt|glen: well, we can't use the G word can we|pg||
nt|mittmouse: bart do u think its right in a long match where people are tired not to claim and let them work to try to beat it|pg||
nt|bbramley: agree about 7|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: silver asking for the same dummy this time|pg||
mb|1N|nt|sharynr: i guess Jim has seen his partner's weak 2's before|pg||
nt|caitlin: sorry won't go for what Ali's goes for:)|pg||
nt|gavin: go pittsburgh!|pg||
nt|caitlin: :)|pg||
nt|gavin: im in sweden for about 7 more hours, no hockey on normal TV here :( |pg||
nt|caitlin: we will keep you up to date Gavin|pg||
nt|caitlin: I have Tom in the lobby letting me know all:)|pg||
nt|gavin: looks like down a couple in 3 diamonds, ew can make 3C|pg||
nt|shals: what does that indicate?|pg||
nt|caitlin: raise in diamonds|pg||
nt|shals: ty|pg||
nt|caitlin: limit|pg||
nt|caitlin: our vugraph operator, Karen, says it wasn't doubled|pg||
nt|gowdy: againd 4 @S and a minor|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4 or 5?|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4+|pg||
nt|caitlin: Korbel thinking of raising|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: i think its a mixed raise , we will see based on norths response|pg||
nt|caitlin: sorry I thought S doubled again and it was left in|pg||
nt|bbramley: george, not in general|pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: worked out well for him|pg||
mb|2C|nt|raghavan: Ellen and Martin - what will N play now after SQ - will he play club small??|pg||
nt|fabsayc: probably win and shift to a club, although that does not look hopeful|pg||
nt|caitlin: if he overtakes that is his only hope|pg||
nt|fabsayc: perhaps a heart better|pg||
nt|caitlin: why Martin?|pg||
nt|mcarroll: I think that is what he is thinking about, I would opt forsmall@C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: attacking communication|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it could be the Green convention|pg||
nt|glen: yes, Green convention, asking for aces|pg||
nt|glen: 4@H likely showed 0 or 3 aces (E suspects 3)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: is fine if you don't do it also on garbage hands|pg||
nt|gavin: perfect!|pg||
nt|shals: yep|pg||
nt|caitlin: asking re minor which can't be clubs|pg||
nt|glen: 5@C confirms all aces, and now W has good playing value if E has the right hand opposite|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: I wonder whom you are rooting for Gavin?:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: interesting hand|pg||
nt|gavin: pittsburgh !!! oh my brother|pg||
nt|shals: good stop I think|pg||
nt|caitlin: we shall see......not so easy|pg||
mb|2D|nt|caitlin: and which is more important?|pg||
mb|3C|nt|capercliff: 4@h is a good choice |pg||
nt|capercliff: normal with a stiff honor|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Good Contract|pg||
nt|sharynr: anyone know what 2Nt asked for|pg||
nt|caitlin: makes sense|pg||
nt|starkist: what a steal this was|pg||
nt|bbramley: and he's going to make 2@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: @s lead will hold it to 10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: may have been singleton?|pg||
nt|caitlin: Pittsburgh on a power play|pg||
nt|shals: no stoppers in clubs for nt|pg||
nt|caitlin: that would be too lucky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: really ugly lead problem for hanna|pg||
nt|gowdy: may lose 2 @S here|pg||
mb|p|nt|gowdy: not now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oh my|pg||
nt|glen: and only a ruff can beat this 7NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|rlebi: unusual but effective auction|pg||
pc|d5|nt|fabsayc: i don't think this auction calls for trump lead either|pg||
nt|capercliff: i wouldnt think so|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I caught all the play on that one :)|pg||
nt|glen: lol :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: all 139 spectators are sworn to not tell roland|pg||
nt|rlebi: 16 imp diff now|pg||
pc|dA|nt|gavin: wheres the contract that consents if detroit wins my bro wins ? ill sign |pg||
nt|fabsayc: Jxx and Jx are ugly for trump lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: 8 boards - 2 imps a board until a playoff|pg||
pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: but is hard to see why a spade is best|pg||
nt|caitlin: nada tricks for NT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is this right??|pg||
nt|mcarroll: K worked better|pg||
nt|raghavan: fell in the trap- 2Club tricks|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well now a heart seems clear|pg||
nt|caitlin: it's right he played North for KQ tight|pg||
nt|gowdy: tuff lead     this looks normal|pg||
nt|caitlin: what else to lead?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pass right to dummy|pg||
nt|caitlin: underlead a heart to stiff @HK??|pg||
nt|caitlin: can't be or he would have clubs:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: a few|pg||
nt|fabsayc: heart or club ace were clearly alternatives, also with their losing cases|pg||
nt|caitlin: low heart|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hanna thinking of winning clearing trump|pg||
nt|caitlin: ???|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he cant do that, would have no chance then|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|c2|nt|caitlin: :) so blood is thicker than hockey|pg||
nt|fabsayc: duck again looks best|pg||
pc|c7|nt|sharynr: well my predictions stink....bd 20 open room in 4@D DBL|pg||
nt|gavin: its amazing how often ducking to keep control in trumps is right when they break bad and you have length w/ the ace|pg||
nt|gavin: both as defender or declarer|pg||
nt|gavin: unless you clearly need to clear trumps ASAP , its better not to win your ace until the last chance|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or 3@D|pg||
nt|starkist: then a shoot off|pg||
nt|fabsayc: surely not two overtricks|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just making|pg||
nt|rlebi: sudden death|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: typo|pg||
nt|bbramley: all the same impwise, for making 110, 140 or 170|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: fixed it|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fabsayc: yes very imaginative by jurek|pg||
nt|raghavan: He wants D|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|caitlin: declarer has to play diamonds|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but this defense may cost a trick|pg||
nt|shals: would one think of 1n first?|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fabsayc: claim time|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is not going to make|pg||
pc|h7|nt|gavin: unless he guessed the singleton king of hearts in the first place he couldnt make after turner ducked two rounds of spades|pg||
nt|gavin: which could not happen|pg||
nt|caitlin: true enough|pg||
nt|caitlin: so N will get his diamond|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now a diamond, but which one|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pg||
nt|caitlin: not with 5Ds|pg||
nt|caitlin: that would certainly help E-W find clubs I think|pg||
pc|c6|nt|sharynr: well this cant help but fail|pg||
nt|caitlin: anything now gives it to declarer|pg||
pc|c8|nt|sharynr: was there really a claim to make 4?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: y|pg||
nt|fabsayc: what|pg||
nt|sharynr: where did the @H oser go?|pg||
nt|sharynr: loser|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: korbel: "sorry i lost a trick"|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is barely possible if defense did not take their clubs|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|caitlin: how did he make it?|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|caitlin: well folks.....I think I will call it a night...we have lots of sessions tomorrow|pg||
pc|cT|nt|gavin: gn|pg||
pc|s6|nt|fabsayc: still down|pg||
nt|caitlin: ty to all and great specs and Karen our great operator|pg||
nt|fabsayc: good night|pg||
nt|caitlin: claim time|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no|pg||
pc|dK|nt|caitlin: oh sorry |pg||
nt|caitlin: West still had a trump|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but a third heart so all well|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|s2|nt|caitlin: 4@D did its job|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|shals: good nite all  and ty commentators for your wonderful help|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d9|mc|6|pg||
qx|o84|st||md|2SQJ632HT93DKQ93CA,SA85H72D764CQJT42,ST4HK5DJT52C97653,SK97HAQJ864DA8CK8|sv|b|nt|lc: Thank goodness.  It's boring enough to watch 1NT when you can see the cards.|pg||
nt|barnets: in3@D e.w in closed|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Back to boards where the bidding will match what you see on the screen|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: lol Larry|pg||
nt|pef: and back to another dull one|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|STR, ART, F|nt|lc: Yup  flat 4@H, you'd think.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|pef: although I suppose there's some chance they will stop below game|pg||
mb|2C!|an|5+ clubs, FG|nt|mtvesuvius: These are just when Nickell wants|pg||
nt|lc: Weichsel overcalls now, but didn't on 76.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = NAT GF|pg||
nt|lc: "Stop below game" and Meckwell should not be mentioned in the same sentence.|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: yes, anyone who considers that a game force opposite a 16+ club is not to be trifled with at the partscore level|pg||
nt|lc: In a GF already.|pg||
mb|2D!|an|5+ !hs|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 5+@H, asking|pg||
nt|thegarve:  seems weird that 2@c is nat GF and not a transfer|pg||
nt|lc: As Meckstroth always tells me, "They pay a bonus for vulnerable games."|pg||
mb|2S!|an|0-2 !hs, minimum, not 4 controls|nt|bigtrain: 2@S = <3@H, minimum hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|barnets: 3n works better than 4@H i think|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2NT = waiting|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: great spot|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|lc: Not clear if 3N or 4@H is better. Is it?|pg||
nt|thegarve:  4@H is easy too|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Nice spot|pg||
nt|barnets: try making 4@H on a spade lead|pg||
nt|pef: a diamond lead makes this very nervouse (need specifically a doubleton k of hearts in the north hand), but fate seems to be with Nickell at the moment|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck confirms that Rodwell's 2@d showed 5+ @hs - "wanted to make 100% sure we got the right explanations"|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
nt|lc: Not clear how to play 3NT.|pg||
nt|lc: If you know @D 4-4, you rely on @C -- not @HKx on.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Board 82 scored now. 1 IMP to Fleisher|pg||
nt|lc: It might depend on def. signals -- as to whether Rodwell can read the situation.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|h4|pg||
nt|pef: true, 44 diamonds and still you do need the heart finesse, though|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Small @h from Ekeblad in tempo would be great|pg||
nt|pef: i wish clubs had split, that would make it more interesting on the finesse vs. squeeze line|pg||
pc|d9|nt|lc: Of course, we see that he can't go wrong.|pg||
nt|pef: well, perhaps he can, if south has the k of hearts he's squeezed, right?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: So much easier when we play double dummy :)|pg||
pc|s5|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|lc: When @C don't come in, sqz not enough tricks.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Now small @H back in tempo|pg||
pc|sT|nt|pef: although now clubs don't split, so we are back to kx of hearts onside|pg||
nt|lc: I think he will have to rely on @HKx after all.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I wanted to see that :)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|lc: Surely, Rodwell will be thinking about sqz -- and Adam is right -- a low @H back would force him to go wrong prematurely.|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|nt|barnets: I was asked about 4@H by specs dec has different options how to play it|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s6|pc|cQ|nt|lc: Oh yes -- he had extra entry -- so no problem.|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|s9|mc|9|pg||
qx|c84|st||md|2SQJ632HT93DKQ93CA,SA85H72D764CQJT42,ST4HK5DJT52C97653,SK97HAQJ864DA8CK8|sv|b|nt|capercliff: routine 4@s, @d lead will hold it to 11|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Open Room replicated the 1NT-3NT auction on board 6|pg||
nt|capercliff: interesting, both not wanting to miss an early Vul game|pg||
nt|sharynr: but they did|pg||
nt|gavin: his low heart play would work any time hearts were 3-2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: north forced to give east a spade trick|pg||
nt|raghavan: 4H + 2C+1D\|pg||
nt|gowdy: ruff a @C draw trump|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes john|pg||
nt|susieq: the cards are definitely going East-West this set|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@H both majors?|pg||
nt|capercliff: E thinks his hand is too good for an old fashioned 3@d bid?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: yes shows both majors|pg||
nt|gavin: he needed to keep his ace of hearts in his hand for an entry to draw trumps after he leads up towards his jack|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so always makes if declarer plays right|pg||
nt|raghavan: a part score deal I hope EW do not jump to game in a Major|pg||
nt|chorush: there was no flannery. what would he be upset about?|pg||
nt|starkist: chugging contest|pg||
mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|fabsayc: in that case 2@S by east can be natural or artificial, you need to discuss a defense|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Is S worth an immediate 4@S?|pg||
nt|gavin: very tough hand will be interesting to see the line in the other room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 10-1 somebody bids game|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Obviously he thinks so|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe too strong|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4@S AND 4@H are both feasible|pg||
nt|gavin: unlikely he will leave them there|pg||
nt|gavin: 7-4 white vs red|pg||
nt|caitlin: Green does not have to accept transfer|pg||
nt|raghavan: E will reject transfer and bid 3S|pg||
nt|rlebi: wrong sided for @Ss already|pg||
nt|rlebi: better stay low for a plus|pg||
nt|starkist: canoe race|pg||
mb|1D!|an|0-8|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 5@D in big trouble|pg||
nt|capercliff: yes 5@c is better, best defence can get 800|pg||
nt|capercliff: must be a @h lead for 800|pg||
nt|capercliff: anything else is 500|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Hard to lead a @H fromS, @S the obvious lead|pg||
nt|fabsayc: club ruff and heart heart switch works also|pg||
nt|sharynr: i dont believe you can gain a trick by claiming if it is impossible to  make it....and in that defense they could not make a mistake?|pg||
nt|caitlin: best to lead trump|pg||
nt|starkist: snowball fight|pg||
mb|1H|an|possible canape|nt|sharynr: will any director out there agree?|pg||
nt|rlebi: sry, dreaming here|pg||
nt|glen: could declarer draw all the trumps and pick up @Ds?|pg||
nt|glen: i.e. just lose to the @D ace if guesses suit right|pg||
nt|rlebi: yes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@S presumably no singleton and extras, and for that hand he is close to minimum|pg||
mb|1S|nt|fabsayc: not clear, but more likely daniel ducked heart|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hoping declarer would play the 9|pg||
nt|caitlin: or S and switch|pg||
nt|gowdy: coffee time |pg||
nt|fabsayc: not so fast they may bid slam|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he needs three diamonds so percentage is finesse of queen|pg||
mb|2C|nt|capercliff: yes that works as well Martin|pg||
nt|capercliff: no doub!!!!|pg||
nt|sharynr: I guess that is what happened martin, since daniel apologized|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: must be joking|pg||
mb|2H|nt|capercliff: guess he didnt think he was taking even 1 @s trick|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that was the problem with 4@S, did not invite partner to participate|pg||
nt|capercliff: well he did open|pg||
nt|caitlin: brb...barbecue going:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: or at least try for it|pg||
nt|gowdy: 3 S  strong H raise|pg||
mb|2S|nt|caitlin: if Hanna is going to bid it should be 4@S|pg||
nt|glen: 4@S = he skipped a @H cuebid, since minimum for 3@S|pg||
nt|rlebi: he didnt bid 4@s,did he?|pg||
nt|glen: the question is whether he plays serious 3NT or not|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he might have based on hand overall minimum|pg||
nt|glen: i.e. EW|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: 3@S was expected|pg||
nt|caitlin: a splinter with 4+ hearts|pg||
nt|gowdy: no 3S artifical|pg||
nt|caitlin: oh|pg||
nt|gowdy: smolen|pg||
nt|caitlin: smolen?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not a splinter, can be balanced or singleton spade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or perhaps unspecified splinter|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2NT asks for a second suit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just in case partner has both majors|pg||
nt|rlebi: not too many imps gonna swing on this one|pg||
mb|2N|nt|gambit: trump switch?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe heart to king now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: many ways to play that bid|pg||
nt|rlebi: running low on boards|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|fabsayc: NV vs vul, shows 8 major cards and a lot of hope :)|pg||
nt|capercliff: from N's perspective his partner is weak for 4@s|pg||
nt|raghavan: If at all I have to bid - I will bid 4S - He has 2 Spades but no guarentee that E will have 2 Hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: serious 3nt would help a lot on this specific auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: well not sure what turner signal meant|pg||
nt|bbramley: will the bridge cops let them finish?|pg||
nt|starkist: flash suggested tree climb good for that area|pg||
nt|rlebi: there is a precedent for that|pg||
mb|4H|nt|fabsayc: hughes knows the entries wrong for trump leads|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah i think a trump lead on the go was best from his hand|pg||
nt|gavin: when partner bids vul against not , its very likely he was bidding to make|pg||
nt|gambit: Diamond to the queen/ King...then trump from my good friend, David Turner |pg||
nt|caitlin: Welcome gambit (Cam French)|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is the Canadian Society of Commentators CSofC:)|pg||
nt|gambit: TY Caitlin great to see my compatriots competing|pg||
nt|caitlin: indeed|pg||
nt|rlebi: l'ecuyer could slow down the pace - while in the lead - run em out of time|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gowdy: yes 3 of the other major after 2c and a major response is artifical showing the strongest support raise |pg||
nt|fabsayc: here comes an imp|pg||
nt|bbramley: close matches automatically slow down at the end - and why not? when you KNOW it's close you grind out every imp|pg||
pc|dK|nt|gavin: in fact his only chance on this hand is to actually draw trumps then eventually guess clubs|pg||
nt|caitlin: end of first period 0-0 btw|pg||
nt|gavin: thx|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|gavin: he was hoping to see singleton jack of hearts so he could go over to dummy to lead clubs up twice (once with heart and once with diamond)|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|nt|gambit: what does he pitch? all cards have a value....|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|fabsayc: so 1100 turned into 400|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|gavin: this play would have him make the contract if kjx of diamonds were onside|pg||
nt|gambit: club|pg||
nt|gambit: and spade exit|pg||
nt|gavin: the play doenst matter much at this point he will just lose 2 clubs|pg||
pc|h9|nt|gavin: one goes on diamond ace and one ruffed|pg||
pc|h7|nt|raghavan: claim time|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|bbramley: i think they should allow some extra time in the last stanza of a match|pg||
pc|sT|nt|caitlin: spade now |pg||
nt|gavin: now if hughest plays a diamond declarer wont lose another club|pg||
nt|starkist: lets petition for it|pg||
nt|rlebi: the directors get hungry, thats what matters, doesn't it?|pg||
pc|sK|nt|caitlin: he wouldn't|pg||
pc|s2|nt|capercliff: how did they make 3NT they will ask when comparing|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|mc|10|pg||
qx|o85|st||md|3S4HAQJ987D92CKQJ9,S3HT632DKQJT3C762,SKQ86H4DA764CA543,SAJT9752HK5D85CT8|sv|n|nt|pef: fleisher rapidly running out of boards now the lead is up to 55. however this one has major swing potential|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rod: "maybe 4@h is better" Meck: "you had 6 hearts?" Rod: "yes, maybe should try hearts - not clear which is better"|pg||
mb|1D!|an|can be short, can have longer !ss|mb|3S|nt|lc: We were looking at all 52 and couldn't tell which was better. :)|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: Another @HKx onside.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Flip a coin :)|pg||
pc|s3|nt|lc: For those wondering, as NICKELL is on their way to becomming USAII -- that is really about as good as being USAI.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
nt|lc: They get an entry in the Bermuda Bowl in Brazil.|pg||
nt|lc: Just had to play an extra few days in White Plains, NY for the right.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Except it takes longer to type USAII|pg||
nt|lc: USA2|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 1 key over then :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 6@c isn't bad actually here|pg||
nt|barnets: have nickell played every bermuda bowl since 1995?|pg||
nt|lc: Lots of work in 6@C -- but down 64 it ain't bad.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell asks Weichsel if they're playing anything on the 4 -level over 3@s. W: "the only thing I could bid is 4@s to show a big hand"|pg||
nt|barnets: the specs say yes|pg||
nt|lc: Doesn't seem fair.|pg||
nt|barnets: I was in beijing in 1995 to see them beat canada in the final|pg||
nt|barnets: a close match|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|barnets: when canada came back from 100 down|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|nt|lc: This was best play for defense.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|barnets: george mittelman says he was there too|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|pef: another large gain for nickell on board 83, where ekeblad and weichsel played 2s, granovetter and rubin played 3c for -300|pg||
nt|barnets: playing|pg||
nt|lc: Now, declarer will have to be careful.  (@HA, @HQ is no good).|pg||
nt|lc: Presumably he will go to dummy in @C for @H finesse.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: He was indeed. Gitelman-Mittelman|pg||
nt|thegarve:  Granovetter is having a "below par " set as East|pg||
nt|lc: Which would lose if LHO remains with blank @HK.|pg||
nt|pef: but that would require the 3s preempter to also have 4h and therefore possibly zero clubs|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|pef: so this looks like by far the percentage line|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c3|pc|hK|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c85|st||md|3S4HAQJ987D92CKQJ9,S3HT632DKQJT3C762,SKQ86H4DA764CA543,SAJT9752HK5D85CT8|sv|n|nt|sharynr: good result for E-W|pg||
nt|glen: for serious 3NT, see part 1 of the famous Gitelman articles: http://www.imp-bridge.nl/articles/2over1.htm|pg||
nt|starkist: it's 8pm there now|pg||
mb|1D|nt|fabsayc: but penticton closes at 10PM|pg||
nt|starkist: haha|pg||
nt|susieq: well, the casino stays open until 2pm|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|capercliff: 3@d here on the way?|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 4@S makeable|pg||
nt|capercliff: maybe is not forcing |pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe 4@D if fit showing|pg||
nt|gavin: interesting choice in the other room to bid garbage stayman with this hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6@D or 6NT cold|pg||
nt|raghavan: should bid 2S |pg||
nt|mcarroll: Courtesy raise|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna may get shut out now|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and preemptive|pg||
nt|raghavan: 2S only |pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@S or some mixed raise|pg||
nt|rlebi: they will open E hand at other table|pg||
nt|glen: sure, but 1 hour from now|pg||
nt|rlebi: 2:00 am?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes|pg||
nt|susieq: right yes|pg||
nt|starkist: 2pm for a casino is kinda strict|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: ive never rlly thought of doing it on a 3352|pg||
mb|2N|nt|capercliff: yes even better|pg||
nt|fabsayc: seems just plain weird|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not really garbage stayman, intent is to pass any rebid|pg||
nt|caitlin: lucky entry to diamonds with a heart|pg||
nt|gavin: isnt that what garbage stayman is ? sry if i missspoke|pg||
nt|caitlin: well Gavin I call it that|pg||
nt|fabsayc: KCB will identify a possible loser, so no 7|pg||
nt|gavin: this is a baby slam|pg||
nt|gowdy: 3nt here is a brick   4 H is in some trouble|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is away from the city so does not disturb anybody|pg||
nt|susieq: 2am is too... here they never close|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|gavin: and easy to avoid 7 as martin said|pg||
nt|gavin: but its definitely good practise to play 6NT|pg||
nt|gavin: 3 imps better and safer|pg||
nt|gavin: 2 imps|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|raghavan: good bid by N|pg||
nt|rlebi: big potential  swing hand here|pg||
nt|rlebi: very easy to get to nonmaking Slam |pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: 5@H too expensive a sacrifice|pg||
nt|raghavan: S should pass|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but 3nt only makes because diamonds blocked and club jack onside, single dummy 4@H looks better|pg||
nt|gowdy: @D blocked  le tthem set them up  3nt is on the J or no club lead|pg||
nt|starkist: we play this position 10-12, cowards|pg||
mb|4H|nt|caitlin: but I know many WC Cohen Gitelman Bergen etc who call it takeout of 2C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: complications now|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh???|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Oh oh|pg||
mb|p|nt|sharynr: drury auction,, should be a making contract|pg||
nt|gavin: spec points out east hand so strong for 4M that maybe its too strong to open 1NT, tough decision|pg||
nt|rlebi: very easy|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: if the @c honors were split it wouldnt|pg||
nt|capercliff: but not realistic I think|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: in the effort to getting to 6NT it would have been better for him to bid 3S|pg||
pc|s3|nt|gavin: to hear from partner that they have a heart stopper|pg||
nt|gavin: he did what he did to find out about the king of spades i guess|pg||
nt|fabsayc: sorry i dont like any of these bids|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this auction calls for a trump lead|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but...|pg||
pc|sK|nt|fabsayc: garbage stayman to me is when you rebid 2@H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: jurek described an entirely different hand|pg||
nt|mcarroll: me neither|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not in slam so no finesse|pg||
pc|sA|nt|gavin: cool i just figured ur bidding stayman with garbage either way|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oops, hoping partner gets in|pg||
nt|bbramley: potential double-part-score swing here - joey avoided giving the 7th trick with a @D, but now declarer is home|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|nt|gavin: so why not include all options in garbage stayman|pg||
nt|fabsayc: SCORE|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hey sharyn im back|pg||
nt|fabsayc: usa1 robinson 116 fleisher 77|pg||
nt|gowdy: drawing trumps :)|pg||
nt|gowdy: now  no sweat|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|sharynr: welcome back|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welland 34 strul 30 in a pitchers duel|pg||
nt|fabsayc: am i alone in hating these irrelevant waits|pg||
nt|sharynr: no|pg||
nt|sharynr: are we stuck|pg||
nt|fabsayc: like gavin said, i dont agree with 6@D|pg||
nt|gavin: the problem that happened here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: unless 4@H can be a singleton, but that does not make sense|pg||
nt|gavin: was his partner didnt bid 2NT over 2D|pg||
nt|gavin: so he really has no idea how good his hearts are|pg||
pc|s9|nt|fabsayc: pittsburg|pg||
nt|gavin: i have complete sympathy in the auction he created for himself why he chose to end in 6D over 6NT|pg||
nt|gavin: i just think he should have constructed the auction better to help himself get to 6NT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 35 in majors with 9 count perhaps|pg||
pc|d2|nt|gavin: i guess some ppl dont play 2H is weak over 2D so if youre discussing garbage stayman , thats what you are talking about|pg||
nt|gavin: YES!!!!|pg||
nt|bbramley: 5 imps for making, and another imp if he manages an overtrick|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|caitlin: NOOO!!|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|h7|pg||
nt|raghavan: not correct|pg||
pc|c9|nt|fabsayc: good defense|pg||
pc|c7|nt|raghavan: Ruffing with SK is not correct now -@@|pg||
nt|raghavan: -2|pg||
nt|bbramley: where are the slams we saw last set? the fans want action!|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
nt|susieq: I admit that I'll be happy with a nice quiet set!|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|nt|capercliff: E chose to rebid 2@h on brd 8|pg||
nt|capercliff: missed game|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|starkist: who said quiet , who said harmon|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|hK|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hT|mc|11|pg||
qx|o86|st||md|4SQ7HAJ4DKJ92CAK32,S96HT9872D4CT8654,SK8432HQ53DAQT6CQ,SAJT5HK6D8753CJ97|sv|e|nt|mtvesuvius: @d slam for a team that's down|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is a fine 6@D|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "diamond would have been a better lead ... Peter did well to not play hearts out of his hand"|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: or for that matter, any team|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Looks like a flat 3N here.  Yet another @HKx onside.  3 straight!!!|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: amazing|pg||
mb|1C!|an|STR, ART, F|nt|Walddk2: Don't you want to be in 6@D, Larry?|pg||
nt|pef: 6d by south looks very reasonable here, espeically for a team behind by that much|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: They might find 6@d|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: I suppose 6@D is nice --  hard to find, though.|pg||
mb|1H!|an|8+ HCP, BAL or 3-suited|nt|lc: Lots of work and handling.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: With their relay, it won't be :)|pg||
nt|pef: of course n/s here, while they can't think they've gained much, mostly think it's awfully flat at this point|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: (25 bids later...)|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: If they do reach 6@D, it is MUCH better from SOUTH -- so @H lead can't make it as awkward.|pg||
mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|12-14|nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, in the South gives it a bit of extra room|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Just a random function of the artificialty now as to who would declare.|pg||
mb|2C!|an|asking|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|some SPL|nt|mtvesuvius: North.|pg||
nt|lc: N-S here might think they are down only 20 -- could be all pushes.|pg||
nt|barnets: cant imagine 6@D better than 50 percent|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H!|an|Asking|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|!c singleton|nt|thegarve:  10minute auction?|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: how did we miss 1d on this auction?|pg||
mb|2N!|an|asking|mb|p|nt|Vugraphu1: Meck asks if Eke is 4441 and Peter says maybe, but not for sure|pg||
mb|3D!|an|I think he wrote 3 !h|nt|barnets: suppose it makes on all 3-2 trump splits|pg||
nt|barnets: where there is no spade ruff|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Using their space efficiently :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H!|an|asking|nt|pef: 11 bids below the level of 3s, very efficient|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Both N & S, I think said that 3@d showed 3 hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Maybe if East-West run out of Pass Cards they have to forfeit the match.|pg||
mb|3N!|nt|Walddk2: It's no doubt an excellent system, but I'm glad I won't have to remember all this|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: You don't like Ironing, Roland?|pg||
nt|pef: too bad nothing got doubled as the passes and redoubles would then add to the overall bidding efficiency :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pef: wow, after all that 3nt seems to unsatisfying|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Well.... all that to get to 3NT :(|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I had hopes of a 20 bid auction|pg||
nt|lc: I said 3NT 10 minutes ago.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Peter now said that Russ showed 5-3-4-1. Russ agrees. And he's the declarer :)|pg||
nt|pef: gee, all us old folks could have bid 1d p 1s p 2nt p 3d p 3nt to do that|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell: "that was a very efficient auction"|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|Vugraphu1: Weichsel: "don't have the right hand"|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|lc: 6@D would have taken a while to play, but likely would have made on this layout (some good breaks, some bad).|pg||
nt|barnets: a trump lead would make 6@D not so great even with 3-2 split try it|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|lc: Clearly, N-S want to be in 6@D if other table is in 3NT or vice-versa at this state of the match.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|lc: Zia is an advocate to have some bridge events where you KNOW the score.|pg||
nt|lc: Like most other games.|pg||
nt|thegarve:  1 by 1 won't get Fleischer back intothe match|pg||
nt|barnets: i like that idea anyone else|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe worth a try.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Didn't they play the BRP as a barometer for a few years?|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|lc: Would creat some amazing bidding at this point.|pg||
nt|barnets: the specs like it too|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg||
nt|pef: there certainly are barometers at regional events and I think there are as many upsides as downsides|pg||
nt|lc: Of course, it helps to know if the score is right.  Several days ago the score said we were winning.  But we lost.  :(|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c86|st||md|4SQ7HAJ4DKJ92CAK32,S96HT9872D4CT8654,SK8432HQ53DAQT6CQ,SAJT5HK6D8753CJ97|sv|e|nt|gavin: right|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well he could have gone down 1|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: skipping board 10 for the omment|pg||
nt|gavin: impossible play of a diamond, even if declarer has 2 D it would cost him a trick|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: moment|pg||
nt|fabsayc: was a guess on a random jack|pg||
nt|caitlin: good try by defense|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: Karen, our operator is hereby reigned as an honoURary Canadian:)|pg||
mb|1C|nt|gavin: 4 imps at stake if ew find the sac, and then if north south compete to 5|pg||
nt|gavin: undoubtedly will not bid 5 over 5|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3@C??|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@S went down on diamond queen lead where leader had 10xxx in spades|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|gavin: would get very lucky to make|pg||
nt|gavin: pass pass double i predict|pg||
nt|raghavan: Grand slam on a finesse will they bid or stop in 6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: result not horrible, ew were making 4@D|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@C majors, so hughes avoids spades|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Lots of big @D fits in this set|pg||
nt|fabsayc: nickell 38 jacobs 25 in US2|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
nt|gavin: ok double |pg||
mb|2N|nt|capercliff: W has a very good hand for 1N, almost too strong|pg||
nt|raghavan: martin agreed but he need not waste his S K|pg||
nt|rlebi: onwards to game now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: usually 2@S would be forcing, but grainger a passed hand|pg||
nt|glen: yes, and does a @H lead from W set up the 4th trick?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: nt range?|pg||
nt|bbramley: a normal unlucky game here|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 11-13|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|gavin: wow!!!!|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 2@S crowds the auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: 3S!!!!|pg||
nt|raghavan: w = 4H|pg||
nt|gowdy: x|pg||
nt|caitlin: Board 22, E-W in 3N in OR|pg||
nt|caitlin: here in 2@S|pg||
nt|starkist: easier to bid other table playing 12 14|pg||
mb|3S|an|<3!s, likes !d|nt|fabsayc: this looks down 3|pg||
nt|gavin: needs to overtake to play a club, easy play|pg||
nt|gavin: to overtake|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to decide wheather to play hearts or clubs|pg||
nt|gavin: seems like u can see that if u start hearts their club losers can go away|pg||
nt|fabsayc: somehow silver made 6nt on 23|pg||
nt|gavin: very rare that u will need to take heart ruff and u dont get clubs back as a trade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: which looks impossible unless a club opening lead|pg||
nt|gavin: a club lead is impossible|pg||
nt|gavin: but playing 6nt over 6s seems bizarre|pg||
nt|gavin: and a club lead vs 6s is impossible as well|pg||
nt|gavin: ok so the lecuyer team actually leads by 26|pg||
nt|fabsayc: impossible no. just strange|pg||
nt|raghavan: now go for slam|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not easy from here|pg||
nt|mcarroll: far from easy|pg||
nt|gowdy: Hi guys   I think 2@S was 3 controls|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hey Gowdy:))|pg||
nt|caitlin: welcome home|pg||
nt|fabsayc: slam yes, but finding what is needed for 7 a headache|pg||
nt|caitlin: are you home?|pg||
nt|caitlin: I missed you:))|pg||
nt|caitlin: lol|pg||
nt|caitlin: Gowdy and I teach together|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi John|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even tougher if controls|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is John Gowdy a World Class expert who has coached every type of Canadian team|pg||
nt|glen: no, it looks like just 3 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: looks like it was E that was thinking|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this has worked nicely|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Low @H lead beats it|pg||
nt|gavin: 7 card suit for me is game opposite a limit raise|pg||
nt|gavin: no matter how bad my hand is|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe 3@C game forcing|pg||
nt|caitlin: agree|pg||
nt|fabsayc: repeated diamond leads would beat this hand i think|pg||
nt|glen: swing to Carruthers|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not that hanna has any reason to find that defense|pg||
nt|glen: so 12+13|pg||
nt|glen: on boards 6+7|pg||
mb|3N|nt|fabsayc: robinson 83 fleisher 33 in USA1|pg||
nt|fabsayc: has 9 runners|pg||
nt|capercliff: or small @h next?|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: oh no|pg||
nt|mcarroll: yes if controls in @C they are useless|pg||
nt|caitlin: that helps Hanna|pg||
nt|raghavan: w = 5D|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Yes now he knows his controls are working|pg||
nt|fabsayc: bid deliberately to push board?|pg||
mb|4D|nt|gavin: impossible because i know how they play|pg||
nt|gowdy: we E after 5D may could be off AK of S|pg||
nt|glen: and the 7NT board up next at the other table|pg||
nt|mittmouse: he might make wo a c lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Not after @H9 played|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah could be GF 3C bid|pg||
mb|6D|nt|capercliff: yes always stiff|pg||
nt|capercliff: 10 if small @h|pg||
nt|gavin: i grew up with david and dan playing junior bridge|pg||
nt|starkist: they got to slam obviously, down with the club finesse off|pg||
nt|gavin: david my oldest regular partner|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi guys|pg||
mb|p|nt|gowdy: but  now 5@S|pg||
nt|mittmouse: niv|pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: shaky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome George|pg||
nt|gavin: georgieeeee|pg||
nt|glen: not that we don't like you 6 specs remaining|pg||
mb|p|pc|d3|nt|gavin: now jh|pg||
nt|gavin: to get out of the way|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes, else down 2|pg||
nt|gavin: or else they will be unable to seperate them later|pg||
nt|gavin: standout play|pg||
nt|gavin: jurek knows that darren doesnt have the ace of clubs|pg||
nt|gavin: fromt he 8 return|pg||
nt|mittmouse: nice play|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|nt|rlebi: 4@S here is a great result|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes no defense now|pg||
nt|starkist: oh|pg||
nt|rlebi: 8 @s better|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|gowdy: so well bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: indeed|pg||
nt|fabsayc: controls identified now|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|mittmouse: much better|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|fabsayc: oh maybe i am wrong|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|sharynr: sorry, been on the phone|pg||
pc|s7|nt|caitlin: then Turner MIGHT cue @CK|pg||
nt|rlebi: the partys .... over ???|pg||
nt|starkist: back in the dumper|pg||
nt|mittmouse: 10 imps to lecuyer running out of boards|pg||
pc|s9|nt|fabsayc: heart ruff diamond back, heart|pg||
pc|s4|nt|fabsayc: next :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i did last weeks dishes :)|pg||
nt|glen: ruffs next @H with @S T|pg||
nt|glen: cashes @S K|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no still ok|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ok, careful defense to win 5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|c4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s2|nt|mittmouse: ithink both defenders were wrong silver should have played 8 of s and carruthers should have played a club back anyways|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c2|nt|caitlin: wd|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Looking for board 12 - maybe at other table|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: slight break in the action :)|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 7 imps to Carruthers on 7 - chipping away at the lead|pg||
nt|caitlin: rehi Gowdy|pg||
nt|rlebi: therefore they are a well matched pair|pg||
nt|mittmouse: right|pg||
nt|starkist: voids the arguement|pg||
nt|bbramley: if declarer had the @CA and enough tricks to make he wouldn't have ducked at trick 1|pg||
pc|c5|nt|gowdy: Hobart is up 46 38 in the Senior event|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hJ|nt|caitlin: versus Jotcham|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hobart is your neighbour right Gowdy?|pg||
nt|caitlin: or close by|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|s8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|sK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dK|mc|12|pg||
qx|o87|st||md|1ST3HT73DJ53CAQT84,SKQJ72HA96DKQC973,SA965HJ4DT982C652,S84HKQ852DA764CKJ|sv|b|nt|lc: Granovetter-Rubin, who know they have lost are just hoping that they don't come out and find their teammates had a good game. That hurts.|pg||
nt|pef: maybe if you used a barometer for an imp event you'd also need to have a "mercy" rule like in softball so if the margin were above a certain point there would be an automatic ...|pg||
nt|pef: concession to prevent truly ridiculous stuff|pg||
nt|lc: A Mercy Rule, they might call it.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3S|an|3NT bid but wants !hs if 3 !hs|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|thegarve:  3@s is?|pg||
nt|lc: 3@S must mean something.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: "Normal" would be a splinter.  But, obviously not.|pg||
nt|lc: And a direct 3NT would no doubt mean something else...|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Both explained that 31s is a 3NT bid but one where he wants partner to choose hearts any time he has 3 of them|pg||
nt|thegarve:  so 3NT is?|pg||
pc|dT|nt|pef: so we all know it means bid 4h with three or more, bid 3nt with 2 (or fewer)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h6|nt|lc: 3NT must be -- use judgment with 3@H.|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h9|nt|barnets: hard for ekeblad rubin and grannovetter all played 11 days in 2001 and lost both finals the same as here very hard|pg||
pc|c6|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
nt|lc: Yet another invention I might steal from Meckwell (added to a long list).|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
mc|10|nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, it's got to be miserable to make it to both finals, and lose both|pg||
pg||
qx|c87|st||md|1ST3HT73DJ53CAQT84,SKQJ72HA96DKQC973,SA965HJ4DT982C652,S84HKQ852DA764CKJ|sv|b|nt|capercliff: another 3N contract|pg||
nt|sharynr: it looks like my Bd 22 prediction was right at least.|pg||
nt|caitlin: but with long spades not much else probably happier to bid 4|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is not a commanding lead|pg||
nt|gowdy: ya  and that was going to be my team till it was not :(|pg||
nt|rlebi: wk nt|pg||
nt|glen: btw I'm watching the other room with the Chrome browser, and BBO (Fred, Uday etc.) have done great work supporting multiple browers - BBO is very fast in google's browser Chrome|pg||
nt|bbramley: 30 imps, 5 boards to go|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: looks like the defense can hold this to 4 with a spade lead|pg||
nt|gavin: 4H looks like a pretty good spot, as does 5D but it looks like nothing can make|pg||
nt|raghavan: a dangerous hand for NS|pg||
nt|raghavan: may land in 6H with bad results|pg||
nt|mcarroll: very true|pg||
nt|gowdy: now this " slam"  won't be as much fun|pg||
nt|mcarroll: their best suit fit is full of holes|pg||
mb|1N!|an|14+-17|mb|p|nt|gavin: though the diamonds look like a standout from south, leavin north up to cashing the ace of spades when he gets in with the ace of hearts or it goes away|pg||
nt|rlebi: how many???|pg||
nt|fabsayc: two way stayman|pg||
nt|bbramley: can E/W get to 3NT?|pg||
nt|bbramley: not any more!|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|fabsayc: north must have underlead spade when in with heart ace|pg||
nt|glen: 1NT is 12-14, 2@D game forcing stayman|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: no|pg||
nt|gavin: in fact ew in the open room freely bid themselves to 5, lucky to survive|pg||
nt|caitlin: @DQ led and then declarer claimed it seems???|pg||
nt|gavin: though unlucky to catch AD opposite void|pg||
nt|gavin: specs suggesting 3nt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3nt will make|pg||
nt|caitlin: So Czyz is from Ottawa|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Not the Roland F wor?>|pg||
nt|raghavan: No they may stop in 4H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6NT is better but down also|pg||
nt|caitlin: capitol of Canada|pg||
nt|gowdy: Is this flannery  or weak with Majors |pg||
nt|caitlin: 2@H shows 5-4 or vul 5-5|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is some strong 2@H bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: 2@S anyone?|pg||
nt|rlebi: the answer was 3|pg||
nt|gambit: other table 5c -1 |pg||
mb|2H|nt|caitlin: or operator missed auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|sharynr: good spot|pg||
nt|gavin: seems hard to unravvel your tricks but i guess they end up just coming to you|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 44 possible not vul|pg||
nt|caitlin: not necessarily so weak|pg||
nt|mcarroll: It will be very hard for S to stop in game opposite an opening bid|pg||
mb|2S|nt|fabsayc: going out on a limb and predicting this will make in under 5 minutes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: do you believe that story?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: they claimed very fast|pg||
nt|raghavan: Gowdy the teacher may approve  that having another Major- I should not pre empt. Also here N has 11 points|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is the best one we have seen|pg||
nt|caitlin: no 2@H shows both majors|pg||
nt|raghavan: Oh are they playing Flannery?|pg||
nt|caitlin: either 5-4 or vul 5-5 or non vul could even be 4-4|pg||
nt|caitlin: no|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not Flannery, is called Ekren in Europe|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the winning amount|pg||
nt|rlebi: oops|pg||
nt|rlebi: just right|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: N/S playing 2/1?|pg||
nt|glen: so he drops 2@Ss, 2@Hs, and ummm?|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|gowdy: if 2 D shows a bad weak two  then 2 H shows a very good one|pg||
mb|3D|nt|sharynr: i think you are right!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a bit harder from south seat|pg||
nt|gavin: yeh seems fine to win in either hand and knock out the king of diamonds, eventually u just cash your tricks and exit with a heart and the defense will be forced to give you your ...|pg||
nt|gavin: club and spade trick in dummy|pg||
nt|bbramley: on their way to 300|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@C can be singleton, 2@D rebid promises 4|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: yes, 2c can be 2 or more|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4531 i think would rebid 2@C also|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: at least i think that's Wolpert just said :)|pg||
nt|caitlin: why? North wins HA can play SA|pg||
nt|caitlin: ooooooops|pg||
nt|mcarroll: here we go|pg||
nt|raghavan: Putting head under a sword?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: misplaced major jack, else a reasonable slam|pg||
nt|gowdy: this should be double key card     6 key card  4 aces and 2 major suit kings|pg||
nt|caitlin: I wonder if this is asking re: 5 controls for hearts and spades|pg||
nt|caitlin: 6 I mean:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: could be double key card, not clear which suit is agreed|pg||
nt|caitlin: hearts|pg||
mb|3H|nt|gavin: after the 1D opening bid, south definitely should not lead a diamond|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or underlead it for the set|pg||
nt|gavin: needs to pick from his doubletons|pg||
nt|gowdy: 11 to 13 |pg||
nt|caitlin: ok|pg||
nt|fabsayc: indeed vul against not with defense no reason to bid 4|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: he did not cash SA|pg||
nt|gavin: wrong one , now cyz has to cash ace of spades to hold to 5 |pg||
nt|gavin: fly ace|pg||
nt|gavin: in fact north should fly ace of hearts and play a club|pg||
nt|caitlin: on this lead clubs going nowhere nor hearts for defense..more likely to cash out|pg||
nt|caitlin: why Gavin?|pg||
nt|caitlin: this could be singleton?|pg||
nt|gavin: cause of the lead ?|pg||
nt|caitlin: :))|pg||
nt|gavin: maybe in 4 that isnt such a winning defence since the club ruff would be 3rd trick, he needs a spade honor from partner to beat|pg||
nt|gavin: so might as well hope its kx and thats why partner was afraid to lead it|pg||
nt|caitlin: what is 5@S?|pg||
nt|mcarroll: If they get to 6@H E will be very careful not to double in case they run to a making 6NT|pg||
nt|raghavan: what does 5S mean |pg||
nt|glen: bonus for operator: play will be quick|pg||
mb|4C|an|singleton spade (according to w)|nt|fabsayc: on this type of auction clubs often the weakest suit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if responder has club fit would tend to rebid 2@S not 2nt|pg||
nt|capercliff: Wolpert taking his time with this one|pg||
nt|capercliff: he will overtake and finesse I would think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: some minor communication issues|pg||
nt|mcarroll: On a @C lead will succeed if the !Q is played, which is I think the correct technical play|pg||
mb|d|nt|fabsayc: now what?|pg||
nt|capercliff: bit of a surprise this, a @c from the east hand cant hurt him|pg||
nt|caitlin: makes sense|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna needs to pitch a diamond if 3rd heart lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: i hear the fat lady warming up ..|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|capercliff: assuming he overtakes and finesses the @d again|pg||
mb|p|nt|raghavan: Martin you are right as always|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this one is good to read the Hobbit trilogy|pg||
nt|raghavan: I maeant NO DOUBLE|pg||
nt|caitlin: for sure no double|pg||
nt|caitlin: you never know if 6N will make which it does not here|pg||
nt|glen: in the other room, on board 8, they are also using the Green convention|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: director has been called|pg||
nt|glen: what for i wonder?|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: a spade back would be embarassing if jack wrong|pg||
nt|mcarroll: small @H from N at trick 2 would have worked|pg||
nt|capercliff: yah and when @h are 4-1|pg||
nt|capercliff: 4-2 sry|pg||
nt|capercliff: if the K@c was wrong he could go off now|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Would have 4@H,3@D 1@C and 1@S|pg||
nt|capercliff: overtaking with the J at trick one was 100%|pg||
nt|gowdy: 9 @C  and the @H now|pg||
pc|c5|nt|gavin: very thoughtfull play|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|glen: maybe its zero tolerance, as they have zero chance of beating the doubled contract|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|mcarroll: True|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no overtrick|pg||
nt|susieq: was there a ruling?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: made 3 exactly|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: there was a one trick transfer by director, i don't know why, sorry|pg||
nt|rlebi: not likely|pg||
nt|fabsayc: wow|pg||
pc|cA|nt|caitlin: there are SIX hungry university guys in my backyard doing the barbecue|pg||
nt|gavin: hughes sees that the one layout that will defeat him is 2 club ruffs|pg||
nt|gavin: so he ditches a club on the ace of diamonds and leads a heart up towards his hand (north is marked with ace of hearts from auction)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: can make from here|pg||
pc|c7|nt|gavin: well played|pg||
nt|caitlin: when declaring you always have to think about worse case scenario|pg||
nt|caitlin: what if? what if?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: lost the play on this one, too fast|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or in this case, best case, doubleton ace of hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry :(|pg||
nt|caitlin: np what is outcome?|pg||
nt|raghavan: I hope he plays H 6 on lead from N - then 3 down - |pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2 down|pg||
nt|caitlin: Karen we understand...I could NEVER do your job|pg||
nt|raghavan: sorry 2 down|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: likely a pus or 3 imps maximum|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|capercliff: hmm the J is interesting, he must know declarer has the 10?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|nt|gowdy: the @C 2 was a mistake|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: conceed a diamond and claim|pg||
nt|capercliff: he got home anyway|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: one more hazard|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o88|st||md|2SQ652HJ7653DQ65CQ,S8HAKQ8D98CA97653,S974H94DAKT74CT84,SAKJT3HT2DJ32CKJ2|sv|o|nt|lc: Very Meckwellian Scorecard -- lots of bid and made games.|pg||
nt|thegarve:  can you do the same with a @s transfer?|pg||
mb|2C!|an|6+ !cs|nt|pef: and they'll probably bid another one here|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|an|ART, asking|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|1 4 card Major|nt|lc: Another Meckwell game -- their 8th -- on the way.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 43-3 this set so far for Nickell|pg||
nt|lc: Not that any of them were vintage MEckwell -- they actually had lots of HCP on all of them.|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: and the prior set was what, 42-3 or something like that?|pg||
nt|lc: So, 3nT or 5@C?|pg||
nt|lc: 5@C better here.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 5@c I would think|pg||
mb|3S!|an|5 !ss, FG|nt|mtvesuvius: just needs @c to behave|pg||
nt|pef: certainly 5c is the best spot|pg||
nt|lc: On wrong lead -- extra chances for 5@C|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Hamman is in 6@d on  86|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: But, no wrong lead coming here.|pg||
mb|3N|nt|pef: meanwhile, hamman and zia did get to 6d in the closed room|pg||
nt|olien: 2@h=4@h or 4@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: Ooops.  |pg||
nt|pef: and from the wrong side, too|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 3@s = 5@s or bad 6, GF|pg||
nt|barnets: gran may lead low heart from KX|pg||
nt|pef: those guys are definitely going to have to work on their bidding methods :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck & Peter discussing the change here where 2@h shows a Major and 2@s denies - think it's a big improvement|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, they are incredibly inefficient :)|pg||
nt|lc: This should be the worst contract they ever reach.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|nt|mtvesuvius: Only 5 bids to get to 3NT! :)|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|lc: No matter what the carding method, North has no choice now but to play a low @D.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d6|nt|lc: So, if 6@D somehow fails, and 5@C on this one ... that cuts it to...|pg||
nt|lc: Nah...|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Peter invented the different responses to 2@c - 2@d and Meck told him he thought it was a big improvement|pg||
pc|h8|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|h5|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d7|nt|pef: well remember the first time these guys played nickell went on a furious rally in the last 8 boards, cutting it to 6 imps|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s9|nt|barnets: gran ovetter led a trump v 6@D|pg||
pc|sA|mc|8|pg||
qx|c88|st||md|2SQ652HJ7653DQ65CQ,S8HAKQ8D98CA97653,S974H94DAKT74CT84,SAKJT3HT2DJ32CKJ2|sv|o|nt|fabsayc: MAYBE!!|pg||
nt|gavin: so the actual score is 135-97|pg||
nt|fabsayc: push|pg||
nt|glen: could have been a misplayed card|pg||
mb|1H|an|could be canape|mb|p|nt|caitlin: I still wish I knew what 5@S response to 4N was|pg||
mb|2C!|an|ART gf (starts relay)|nt|vugraphznx: they were discussing that here a bit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: more than he had?|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hanna seems to hold hearts a lot:)|pg||
nt|raghavan: I also want to know what 5S is|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Carruthers got another 5 imps on board 7|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4@S  E-W|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@H, does not fit any other overcall|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: everyone agree with 2S?|pg||
nt|caitlin: by North?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is ok|pg||
nt|gavin: with 4 boards to go in the set|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe hanna should cash diamond before returning the club|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not sure which way denies the club doubleton|pg||
nt|fabsayc: penalty card in hearts maybe|pg||
nt|glen: poor other table, when they try to work that out|pg||
nt|glen: 1 hour from now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey tough enough here|pg||
nt|bbramley: slam on 2 finesses, or 1 finesse and a miracle @D guess|pg||
mb|2D!|an|canape|mb|p|nt|gavin: wolpert bid 1NT here because he didnt think he was good enough for 2H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but 3@H also ok|pg||
nt|gavin: aggressive 4S bid|pg||
nt|gavin: rlly hate that bid|pg||
mb|2H!|an|relay|nt|gavin: and instead of risking his partner raising 1S to 2S and playing the wrong fit, he bid 1NT|pg||
nt|gavin: on that lead declarer will likely go 2 down, take a spade finesse|pg||
nt|bbramley: but only 30 HCP and no extra shape - it's a bad slam and normal to stay out of it|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Seemingly W cannot pass 2@C?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 800 possible|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i doubt i would want to ever pass 3nt|pg||
nt|gavin: though the defense will need to cash their tricks int he right order|pg||
nt|fabsayc: in open room Joey opened 2@D and auction crowded opponents|pg||
nt|caitlin: can set up hearts to make 4S|pg||
nt|glen: btw board 8 is a push in 7NT, unless misplayed now|pg||
mb|2S!|an|hearts and longer clubs|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 3@C blocking bid but sometimes taken seriously|pg||
nt|gavin: easy to allow them to escape for 1 down by trying to cash 2 hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: would be a better contract if north had 2 hearts and 1 diamond|pg||
nt|gowdy: the A  then the 9  the green plays the last @H|pg||
nt|glen: nope, claim eliminated misplay chance|pg||
mb|2N!|an|relay|nt|fabsayc: he can pass, and will when happy to see opponents bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe more|pg||
nt|starkist: omg|pg||
nt|caitlin: right|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@H is weird|pg||
nt|mcarroll: I agree|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i guess 1@S can be a four card suit for them|pg||
nt|gowdy: normal   canadian  hmmm |pg||
nt|starkist: it's the exchange rate|pg||
nt|bbramley: north must be worth another try, assuming that 2@C was GF|pg||
nt|gracelin: both 6H / 6NT forced to make on DQ lead :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: srry, private|pg||
nt|bbramley: yes|pg||
nt|bbramley: any time, patrick :)|pg||
nt|starkist: 4n coming|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@C|pg||
mb|3D!|an|x4x6|mb|d|nt|fabsayc: hearts so much better here|pg||
nt|starkist: 13 imps|pg||
nt|gavin: better but still grim|pg||
nt|gavin: here it is no play|pg||
nt|gavin: like most of the time|pg||
nt|gavin: he is not playing with someone who is afraid to bid|pg||
nt|mittmouse: club back is best then 3 down|pg||
nt|gavin: needs a pure 3S bid to have hope|pg||
nt|susieq: when in doubt, claim|pg||
mb|3H!|an|relay|nt|capercliff: wow|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well this does have a play of sorts, but will fail|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Very lucky with the @C position|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: needs miracles including clubs 2-2 onside i believe|pg||
nt|capercliff: so long as N goes low with a @c|pg||
nt|capercliff: if N doesnt play small it will come in|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no|pg||
nt|caitlin: hmmmm|pg||
nt|gowdy: nice auction|pg||
nt|mittmouse: if he gets to 6 withqof d lead and he ducks and w returns the 9 of clubs he may still go down playing for a squeeze|pg||
mb|3N|an|1-4-2-6 minimum (not huge)|nt|glen: also when in 7NT, claim|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: hey there fish...you finished in Open?|pg||
nt|caitlin: missed opportunity|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ok i claim 5@C|pg||
mb|5C|nt|fabsayc: still losers in diamond to deal with|pg||
nt|gowdy: rebidding your 7 card suit ?  not so so thats bad|pg||
nt|fabsayc: still gaining imps however|pg||
nt|caitlin: true|pg||
mb|p|nt|sharynr: sorry folks....gotta make dinner. Enjoy|pg||
nt|starkist: they ran out of hands|pg||
nt|caitlin: Carruthers team is going to have their work cut out this eve|pg||
nt|rlebi: 12 tricks now|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: hard hand|pg||
nt|caitlin: and that is the name of the game|pg||
nt|caitlin: so far 18 vs 9 IMPs to L'Ecuyer|pg||
mb|p|nt|mittmouse: 4 down|pg||
nt|gavin: 3 down for 10 imps|pg||
nt|fabsayc: right but 2@H is going nowhere with a promising hand|pg||
pc|d5|nt|gavin: south had a tough problem, conflicting rules|pg||
nt|gavin: most often when you have a 4-4 fit and a 5-3 fit you want to play the 4-4 fit|pg||
nt|gavin: though from the bidding there was a good chance his partner was 6-4, and with such bad spades it hink he made the wrong decision|pg||
nt|mittmouse: no 3|pg||
nt|raghavan: Hanna will make 3 only|pg||
pc|d8|nt|gavin: 135-107|pg||
pc|dK|nt|caitlin: and use 5-3 to dump losers if possible|pg||
nt|gavin: here north didnt even introduce spades|pg||
nt|rlebi: 37 imps with 3 boards|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|harmon: Hey everyone|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fabsayc: ultralight 1nt stole board 12, carruthers missed game|pg||
nt|caitlin: Harmon sorry this table ONLY for Canadian citizens|pg||
nt|starkist: 1@h 1n 2@s 2n* 3@h 4@s|pg||
pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: david is going to wish he kept that exit card|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
nt|mittmouse: in this position hughes should return the count 2 of h|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o89|st||md|3SKQ5432HQJ9DACQ72,SAJ986H5D2CKJT865,S7HAK876DKT7653C3,STHT432DQJ984CA94|sv|e|nt|lc: Action here.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Wonderful misfit here|pg||
nt|pef: sorry, 7 imps, not 6--can't get away with anything here|pg||
mb|2D!|an|5+ !hs, 4! !ds|nt|mtvesuvius: @c and @h actually aren't bad|pg||
nt|lc: A 2@D opener for N-S.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: 2@D = 5+@H and 4+@d|pg||
nt|pef: will the vulnerability stop meck from bidding?|pg||
nt|lc: Will Meck be silenced?  |pg||
mb|4H|nt|lc: :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Doubtful :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pef: it did!|pg||
nt|lc: 4@H ought to do it. :)|pg||
pc|d2|nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, just about anything else and he might|pg||
nt|lc: Practical choice by Weichsel. Slam unlikely opp limited opener.|pg||
nt|pef: of course, even 4h on the foul splits isn't ice cold|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Peter asks about spot card leads: "3rd and low"|pg||
pc|d3|nt|lc: So, if honest, he knows @D are likely 5-1. "Nobody" would lead a 3-card @D suit on this auction.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell: "still thinking about the hand"|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
nt|lc: So, Weichsel is warned that @D are not breaking.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Now he probably knows|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Funny wish trick - usually the A comes first :)|pg||
nt|pef: zia made 6d|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Hamman did, not Zia|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Hamman did|pg||
nt|barnets: hamman made 61D but neede the heart finesse|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|pef: sorry hamman|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|nt|lc: Hard to see how declarer can overcome the horrendous splits here.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|pef: so that would seem to be it for this match, too bad not more of a nail-biter|pg||
nt|barnets: he plaued the @SQ at trick 1 gran won and led a second trump|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: pretty miserable for him, and -1 probably|pg||
pc|d8|nt|barnets: maybe a heart would have been better|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s8|nt|pef: but I think we really should congratulate the fleisher team, coming all the way form the round robin, beating the nickell team over 120 boards, and leading this match through more ...|pg||
nt|pef: than the first 60|pg||
nt|thegarve:  she's singinmg in the aisles - only four baords left to score|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d9|nt|lc: Amazing 95-6 run on these final 2 segments for NICKELL.|pg||
nt|barnets: yes very unlucky to have ro play nickell twice|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c5|pc|d6|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: They are very capable to have huge comebacks|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: and both times they have|pg||
pc|h9|nt|barnets: actually almost the same as last match|pg||
pc|c8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|thegarve:  stamina without doubt plays its part|pg||
nt|lc: So, the original  1 seed and original  11 seed will represent the U.S.  Did anyone have that combo in the pool?|pg||
nt|barnets: but fleisher was leading by a lot more and just made the winning post|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Peter: "is that real?" Meck: "yes, I don't have any hearts" Peter: "I guess I could have made this ... played it pretty normal|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|cQ|nt|barnets: I had the 1 seed|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|pef: very brave of you barnet|pg||
mc|9|nt|mtvesuvius: I'm sure you didn't get too much money form that pick :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "if I had 6 @ss I'd have bid"|pg||
nt|lc: Fleisher was the original 12-seed (maybe 11). SHows the depth of the field.|pg||
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qx|c89|st||md|3SKQ5432HQJ9DACQ72,SAJ986H5D2CKJT865,S7HAK876DKT7653C3,STHT432DQJ984CA94|sv|e|nt|fabsayc: i am pretty sure was best to ruff third spade with heart nine and exit with a heart|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|starkist: down, hard to lead the @st to make|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes passport controls as of June 1|pg||
mb|2S!|an|5+!s, 3+!h, GF|nt|gavin: hey harmon|pg||
nt|gavin: if north south can find hearts they make a LOT|pg||
nt|starkist: disaster other table|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@D very strange contract|pg||
nt|gavin: looks like atleast 10 tricks|pg||
nt|starkist: 2@c is majors, shd survive|pg||
nt|fabsayc: great hand for an ace underlead by Darren against 4@S|pg||
nt|fabsayc: korbel has a double, although a shakey one|pg||
nt|rlebi: here the swing hand we were looking for|pg||
nt|rlebi: here's|pg||
mb|p|nt|rlebi: std dbl|pg||
mb|3D|nt|caitlin: for this set|pg||
mb|p|nt|rlebi: relay to 2@c|pg||
nt|glen: rdbl is likely a 1 suit runout here|pg||
mb|3H|nt|fabsayc: ok i respond 1@H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and expect to survive|pg||
nt|gavin: opposite a passed hand, I really like 2NT opening with west hand|pg||
nt|starkist: wow|pg||
nt|starkist: just what the doctor ordered|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcbruce:  This would be a good time to thank the commentators and the operators, who did a good job for us for two days!|pg||
mb|4H|nt|fabsayc: with direct bids two suited brozel or similar|pg||
nt|glen: they could play dont, as in dont double us|pg||
nt|starkist: You too Bruce|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: the transfer advance |pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: they did other table|pg||
nt|caitlin: close round so far L'Ecuyer 15; Carruthers 13|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even first or second|pg||
nt|starkist: seems normal|pg||
nt|raghavan: unfortunate lead -Clubs will be set up hoping DK entry|pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: thanks Karen, you're good|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|fabsayc: good auction|pg||
nt|mittmouse: wd in the bidding|pg||
nt|starkist: 3@h not that auto against strong nt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: fourth best|pg||
nt|rlebi: a little rich i think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that is why i said double was shakey, is really at bottom end in tricks|pg||
nt|glen: some specs like 2@SX for NS better|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes +300|pg||
pc|dA|nt|caitlin: hey Detroit is on a power play|pg||
nt|gavin: shorthanded goal incoming|pg||
nt|gavin: a little malkin breakaway|pg||
nt|starkist: cant type with fingers crossed|pg||
nt|caitlin: there will hardly be a break.......next round in 40 minutes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: http://www.cbf.ca/BWeek/09files/BWeek09_results.html for times and results|pg||
nt|caitlin: for whom Tony?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: next set at 7PM pacific time|pg||
nt|caitlin: or 10 pm Eastern |pg||
nt|caitlin: whichever you prefer:)|pg||
nt|rlebi: the winning lead|pg||
nt|starkist: knew you were talented before, add this to the list|pg||
pc|d2|nt|caitlin: hard to go wrong here|pg||
nt|starkist: can't say, I'm afraid to rile the pitt fans|pg||
nt|caitlin: no more Detroit ones here|pg||
nt|starkist: proximity|pg||
nt|caitlin: let's have specs clap if for Pittsburgh.....|pg||
nt|caitlin: and now for Detroit|pg||
nt|caitlin: OMG the clapping for Detroit was overwhelming|pg||
nt|fabsayc: probably cross ruff for 11 tricks|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Contravenes Burn's Law|pg||
nt|capercliff: I dont mind passing, dont want to encourage partner to bids lots|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|gavin: jurek is a sick sick animal :)|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Club return causes problems|pg||
nt|fabsayc: indeed will still need to guess diamonds now|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Has to hope that D!A is right|pg||
pc|h5|nt|harmon: GO BREWERS|pg||
nt|caitlin: Gowdy how come there are no results for Seniors?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or queen|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1c-1h-2d (West coast Polish convention showing balanced 18-19)|pg||
nt|starkist: thanks Roland/BBO/CBF|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c8|nt|caitlin: sorry Hobart vs Jotcham|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|gavin: west can see without any entries to dummy that he might aswell lead clubs out of his hand|pg||
nt|glen: yes, otherwise known as no hope in heck|pg||
pc|dK|nt|rlebi: will Jim find the winnining return?|pg||
pc|d4|nt|capercliff: you cant always have 4-4 fits in the majors|pg||
nt|gavin: normally you would like to lead up towards the kq a couple times|pg||
nt|caitlin: which proves fruitful|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: he did|pg||
pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: 2h rebid (my hand sucks) - ok then 2s not forcing- thanks partner|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|gowdy: well n's 8 is suit pref for H  as opposed to netural  so it is gueesable  |pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|gavin: with the 9 showing in north|pg||
nt|gavin: west carefully protected his 3rd club trick by leading low from his hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now a safety play|pg||
nt|gavin: 2nd rather|pg||
pc|sK|nt|fabsayc: but will cost an imp or two|pg||
nt|starkist: pitt scores|pg||
nt|fabsayc: lost an imp not cashing the spade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but had hanna ducked this would be very interesting|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|gavin: 9 tricks secured with 1 spade 3 hearts 3 diamonds and 2 clubs|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he already has to assume heart ace right|pg||
pc|s8|nt|mittmouse: well i think 3h is the right bid if it just shows a lot of hearts and no cards|pg||
nt|fabsayc: as it should, with power you go thru 2NT|pg||
nt|starkist: i agree if it shows that|pg||
nt|starkist: because thats what he has|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah... though it would still typically have a card outside i thk|pg||
nt|gavin: 5 card support and a stiff and out seems like a bit much|pg||
nt|gavin: 145-107 if he makes this|pg||
nt|starkist: fellow commentators, starstudded... should put a team together and challenge the winners|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|gavin: if the vugraph operator can wish my bro and his team gl from me id appreciate it|pg||
nt|starkist: forgone|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this looks pretty normal to me|pg||
pc|c6|nt|vugraphznx: if that looks weird, i may have missed a trick|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|fabsayc: well carruthers got the most out of this hand|pg||
nt|starkist: the cntc is not the same without shaky and schvantz|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c4|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o90|st||md|4S76HKQJ9742DA742C,SK4H6DKT96CKQ8642,SJ32H85DJ853CT975,SAQT985HAT3DQCAJ3|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|3H|mb|d|an|FG|nt|mtvesuvius: Indeed, there were some really great teams playing|pg||
nt|pef: and some practice slam bidding on this board|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mtvesuvius: This is the last board of the final segment of the USA2 Final. Many thanks to our fantastic operator in White Plains, Jan Martel! Great job, and thanks for bringing the room to ...|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: life! Also thanks to my excellent fellow commentators: Roland Wald, Peter Friedland, Walter Johnson, Larry Cohen, Barnet Shenkin and Martin Garvey, I am Adam Kaplan.|pg||
nt|lc: 6@C best at IMPs.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: Our appreciation to the USBF for bringing this prestigious event to BBO vugraph. As always, Jan Martel has been instrumental in setting up a great show for the whole world to ...|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: watch, and Roland Wald, who works tirelessly to bring us this great show!|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: And thanks to all the spectators for your helpful comments, this was the last session of this event, congratulations to the USA1 and USA2 winners: USA1: Doub-Wildavsky, ...|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Robinson-Boyd, Stewart-Woolsey and USA2: Nickell-Freeman, Meckstroth-Rodwell, Mahmood-Hamman! I hope you have enjoyed watching, we will have broadcasts from San Remo all this week, ...|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: enjoy!|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Thanks to all the specs for watching, and a special thanks to those who have made contributions to the USBF Vugraph fund :)|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: no, a very special thanks to Jan Martel in particular :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "you guys played great ... great match" Ekeblad: "good match"|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And some of us are happy to get back to 'normal' vugraph hours :)|pg||
nt|barnets: thanks to all the specs for their valuable input-- |pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
nt|lc: Ekeblad-Weichsel clearly played the best of the 3 Fleisher pairs in this match.|pg||
nt|lc: Without the preempt here, it would have been much easier for E-W to bid slam.|pg||
nt|pef: we are all looking forward to your recounting of the top matches in print, Larry!|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|lc: I don't know where to start. Too many boards. Too many mathces.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: and the Fleisher team has played extremely well,  a good match indeed|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Make sure you include Rubin's 6@d hand, Larry :)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
nt|lc: Someone suggest the article should be called "White Pains."|pg||
nt|lc: No typo :)|pg||
nt|lc: And, for those who asked: White Plains is a Northern suburb of NYC  (about 15 miles).|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I think that would be appropriate|pg||
nt|lc: Turned out to be a very good venue.  Had everything a bridge tournament should have.|pg||
nt|barnets: the 4 handed team got better as the match went longer|pg||
nt|lc: Unless you want sightseeing. :)|pg||
nt|lc: There wasn't too much strain on the 4-handed team.  They didn't have to show up until halfway through the tournament.|pg||
nt|thegarve:  experience of these long stanzas showed|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: In addition to only being 4 handed for the final also|pg||
nt|lc: And, they didn't have to play 4-handed until yesterday.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
mc|12|nt|Walddk2: Thanks all and good night|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: ok, thanks all! :)|pg||
nt|lc: Thank you ---|pg||
nt|thegarve:  gn|pg||
nt|barnets: bye|pg||
nt|pef: night all|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Congratulations again to Nickell and Robinson!|pg||
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qx|c90|st||md|4S76HKQJ9742DA742C,SK4H6DKT96CKQ8642,SJ32H85DJ853CT975,SAQT985HAT3DQCAJ3|sv|b|nt|vugraphznx: skipping board 14, will come back to it|pg||
mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|fabsayc: thanks to our operator Karen, good work|pg||
nt|caitlin: I am sure Karen can......from Gavin to the Darren and his team|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
mb|3H|nt|fabsayc: looked fine Karen|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and it looks like slam can be made EW in hearts|pg||
mb|4C|nt|glen: anybody for slam? everybody?|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: he stole his rebid|pg||
nt|starkist: actionne|pg||
mb|4H|nt|gowdy: no was spot on I think|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Inverted minor raise presumably|pg||
nt|fabsayc: one of the surer applictions of the rabbi rule here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but 6@D is still on a guess if no spade lead|pg||
nt|capercliff: wonder if 2@d was GF or not|pg||
nt|caitlin: Pittsburg 2 Detroit 0|pg||
nt|bbramley: tough for your main partner to be from a different country - much harder to make teams|pg||
nt|starkist: 3@h bit pusilanimous|pg||
nt|starkist: 2n|pg||
nt|bbramley: could try 2NT, get some info|pg||
mb|4N|an|keycard for clubs|nt|fabsayc: and to all the impartial commentators, spectators, roland, bbo, and the CBF|pg||
nt|caitlin: is Hazel with them?|pg||
nt|gowdy: this may be a chance to tightenthings up|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: 61d is cold|pg||
nt|capercliff: @d|pg||
nt|capercliff: and bid in the open room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not the lead direct double just helped opponents on this board|pg||
nt|caitlin: two way stayman?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i cant spell that, so will use the british "wet" instead|pg||
mb|5D|an|3 keycards|nt|fabsayc: note|pg||
nt|caitlin: I assume|pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: gavin not impartial|pg||
nt|caitlin: and hello from Gavin to his mom|pg||
nt|raghavan: Why not W trasfer |pg||
nt|fabsayc: well an enjoyable and fast set, thanks again to Karen, our tireless operator|pg||
mb|6C|nt|rlebi: 6@c only slam that makes|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: one more board after this, again thanks to Karen for her hard work all today as operator|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|caitlin: the Wolperts are a famous bridge playing family in Toronto:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now all we need is another 500 spectators for the final set|pg||
nt|rlebi: or @ds|pg||
nt|glen: btw we have a USA1 winner in spec, and congrads to that team in a very tough and long event|pg||
nt|glen: hopefully they will concede once they see how strong Canada1 is|pg||
nt|glen: hmm, they promise a battle :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we will field the enforcers with 10 foot hockey sticks|pg||
nt|glen: he might just put 6@C on the table now|pg||
pc|hK|nt|caitlin: 5-3s often better in NT|pg||
pc|h6|nt|raghavan: 4 H no chance let us see for 3NT|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 8 tricks and chances for a ninth|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but here the 5 never even mentioned|pg||
nt|caitlin: needs one minor suit trick|pg||
nt|caitlin: ????|pg||
nt|fabsayc: entries a problem|pg||
nt|mcbruce:  we're about 5 mins from COPC one round to go leaders|pg||
pc|h5|nt|fabsayc: cunning play but should not work|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|capercliff: huh?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: signing off, but this could be less safe than slam|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he can be missing two aces|pg||
nt|capercliff: 5@s was a relay to play in 5N|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so blackwood was not the right tool|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not sure what is however|pg||
nt|gowdy: needs a or k of d in N with  no C switch|pg||
nt|susieq: 5N transfers the blame to partner|pg||
nt|glen: no, its the your-fault 5NT (i.e. you pick it)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fabsayc: one does not get 12 card fits that often|pg||
nt|capercliff: slam is 50/50 at best anyway|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and to gavin, caitlin, tony, george and cameos from cam and harmon |pg||
nt|fabsayc: so win and heart to 9 and diamond up|pg||
pc|h9|nt|capercliff: happens to be the right side of 50 this time|pg||
nt|fabsayc: better than 50-50|pg||
nt|capercliff: you dont have time to try both finesses Martin:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: usually the defense will yield many clues to the best line|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hazel, the mom runs a great bridge club|pg||
nt|raghavan: North must be alert to play C and another C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is essentially the same|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually this is better, though Jurek should realize hearts likely solid|pg||
nt|rlebi: he picked swell|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not a bid with a great track record lately, but worked here|pg||
nt|glen: on board 10, with the two offside black kings, EW made 6@S at the other table|pg||
nt|glen: sorry board 9|pg||
nt|glen: they bid 6@S for 13 imps|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: they have to guard clubs also|pg||
nt|fabsayc: plus no spade lead, i would expect a lot of clues|pg||
nt|glen: and now in 6@S board 10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: wow|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|fabsayc: tomorrow first session at 9:30 PDT, 12:30 in toronto, 2pm in newfoundland|pg||
nt|starkist: cameos and harmeos|pg||
nt|harmon: what time in Borneo???|pg||
nt|mcbruce: Special thanks from me to both of our operators today.  While they tolied I finished preduplicating the last of the 2,858 boards for the tournament.  :)|pg||
nt|gavin: yikes bruce i know that task|pg||
nt|rlebi: swing comes back as predicted|pg||
pc|dA|nt|caitlin: nice 6@C by Turner and Hughes|pg||
pc|d6|nt|fabsayc: in answer to why they cancelled the board|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thoughts on opener rebidding 2@C rather than 3@D|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
nt|mcarroll: now 9 tricks|pg||
nt|gowdy: 8 |pg||
nt|fabsayc: not so fast|pg||
nt|raghavan: still Ck and C|pg||
nt|mcarroll: true|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and now is surely marked|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Has 9 but def can getb 5 first|pg||
nt|raghavan: Why H is not developped - means solid|pg||
pc|dK|nt|raghavan: so hope in C|pg||
nt|gowdy: works here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: slam on 9 was fair, on 10 horrible|pg||
pc|d5|nt|fabsayc: cash the spade|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if this session did not start on time, would be very noisy once the COPC ended|pg||
pc|d9|nt|raghavan: GOOOOOD|pg||
pc|d8|nt|fabsayc: declarer will need to guess right at the end to get the 6 tricks he started with|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Folks|pg||
pc|c3|nt|caitlin: Hi Martin:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome Ellen|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|mcarroll: excellent defence - but still loses 3 imps|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|mcarroll: 2|pg||
nt|gowdy: 2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
mc|12|pg||
