vg|2009 USBC USA2 Final,Segment 5 of 6,I,61,75,Fleisher,139,Nickell,123|
rs|6CS=,6CS=,3NW+1,6NW-3,3NN+3,3NN+2,3NW+1,3NE=,4HE-1,5HWx-2,2SE=,2SE-2,3SN=,2SN+1,4SN+1,4SN+1,1NW=,1NW=,3NS-2,3NS-3,3SW=,2CE=,4SW+2,4SW+1,2HW-1,3CW-3,2SE=,2SE=,3NS-2,3NS+1|
pn|Weichsel,Meckstroth,Ekeblad,Rodwell,,,,|pg||
qx|c61|st||md|3SAQ4HA52DA2CAKQ32,ST98765HT7DQJ3C85,SKHQ984DK974CT764,SJ32HKJ63DT865CJ9|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|hedyg: good evening and welcome back to the United States Bridge Championship 2009, White Plains, New York, USA; final, segment 5/6|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|hedyg: our operator is Dan Wolkowitz; hi Dan!|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|kareno: So this is the rematch between Nickell and Fleisher and once again Fleisher is in the lead.|pg||
mb|p|mb|5N|nt|mtvesuvius: Hi All :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: welcome to Shirley Ybarra, Karen Allison and Adam Kaplan all from USA!|pg||
nt|kareno: Hedy :)  Adam :)  Dan :)|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|kareno: Shirley :)|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cK|nt|hedyg: and Al Hollander!|pg||
pc|s5|nt|mtvesuvius: Hi All :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Al* also|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|c2|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hello everybody|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I assume Meckstroth and Rodwell are here, but maybe not...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from the auction   NS must be Zia-Hamman|pg||
pc|h5|nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or Fleisher-Kamil|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: That's true, strong 2@c opener|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all other pairs playing big club|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: you're right :)|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Has to be Zia-Hamman :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Adam is a big club fan -- check out his Blog|pg||
nt|hedyg: bets?|pg||
mc|12|nt|kareno: Why didn't he pitch that last diamond from dummy?|pg||
nt|kareno: I guess he did :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Al :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H was Kokish  either strong with @H or very big NT hand|pg||
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qx|o62|st||md|4SJ532HAJ63DKCJT97,SKQ7HQDAQ8743CKQ5,ST864H98DJ965C832,SA9HKT7542DT2CA64|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: and it isn't a good one anyway|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Chuck will get player names up as soon as he gets a minute|pg||
nt|daman: I don't think the Moss squad will be sitting on their hands waiting for breaks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Chuck will enter names when he gets a chance|pg||
nt|ahollan1: west is Sylvie Moss, North Sasha Cohen, East Migry Campanile, South Rozanne Pollack|pg||
nt|mariner1: slam chance here NS|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|mariner1: can make 7 finding Q@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: splinter to 4@C?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: jump shift to 3@D??|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: 7@H 7@S or 7@D all can make (all on Q@D hunt)|pg||
mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: real key from Sasha's point of view is the @D suit|pg||
nt|mariner1: Key Card now|pg||
nt|daman: Moss team in 6@S on Board 81 in CR|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@C from Pollack as Exclusion would be great treatment|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Sasha can't ask -- needs to know way too much that KC won't tell her|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: we have Closed Room up now|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: redouble or 5@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: superfluous dbl -- gives NS more room to sort things out|pg||
nt|mariner1: Moss in Closed Room bid the 6@S on board 81|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow|pg||
mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: 5@C already said -- no @C loser -- Pollack worried about a) trump  b) missing grand|pg||
pc|s2|nt|daman: I would have bid 5@D    S must have first round @C control|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|mariner1: now S has to sort of guess about N's @S quality|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i like 5@D too george -- but more because Pollack KNOWS Cohen can't cue in red suit|pg||
nt|daman: missed a big chance to put the opps away|pg||
nt|daman: if they bid the grand in the CR     watch out|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 13 tricks not certain -- need good things to happen in a red suit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and decent trump split|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and guess which good thing happened :)|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: so for the puritans, just a question of whether 6@S arrived at convincingly or not -- which gets an extra 5 points :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: Al no style points?|pg||
nt|daman: my guess is if you were in 7 and had to play it wide open?  you would end up making on a high crossruff after pitching @Ds on the @Hs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is there a sure line for 12 tricks?|pg||
nt|mariner1: well most lines work|pg||
nt|daman: and ruffing @Cs along the way    East cannot get out of her own way on the play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure george -- that seems to rely upon @H 33  surely better to try @D first|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|daman: they are in 7 in the other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and maybe right to play 2nd @D here|pg||
nt|daman: get your popcorn out|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: quick gear shift|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|daman: 7 will make on a dummy reversal with 2 @C ruffs I believe|pg||
nt|ahollan1: send out a call for Michael Rosenberg and Bart Bramley -- what is BEST line for 12???|pg||
nt|ahollan1: note: they analyze without peeking at the opponent's hands|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c62|st||md|4SJ532HAJ63DKCJT97,SKQ7HQDAQ8743CKQ5,ST864H98DJ965C832,SA9HKT7542DT2CA64|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: ok, thx Dan|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Everybody here plays 2/1, strong NT... EW also use Multi|pg||
mb|2H|nt|hedyg: EW system card : http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=392&pid=173|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: and NS 2@D Opener is     Flannery     there - I said it|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|hedyg: NS system card: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=497&pid=203|pg||
nt|hedyg: you are in trouble Al|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: You shouldn't curse like that in front of me, Al, it could harm me :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i believe -- learn the bad words when you're young|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: I've done that :) I know Flannery and Gerber, so... :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: tststs|pg||
nt|hedyg: does this mean the 3@d would have been nf?|pg||
nt|scotty: no|pg||
nt|kareno: In 2/1 no, it would not.|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: he was temporizing, look for support|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: No, unless specifically agreed|pg||
nt|kareno: 2NT was 100% forcing.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2/1 pairs out there -- make sure you discuss whether your 2M rebid promises 6+ suit -- don't assume and it is not standard|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I don't play it promises 6, just a min. hand|pg||
nt|kareno: Slam is too much of a reach here.  |pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: EW play "5 card majors, semi-forcing NT, Eastern Scientific style"|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Not much works for declarer|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: it barely makes 4NT|pg||
mb|5N|mb|p|nt|scotty: in fact 4N can be defeated, I think|pg||
nt|hedyg: 4@h was making with 98 dropping|pg||
nt|kareno: Diamond king makes 3nt just fine.   but 4nt is too high with the spade that will no doubt be led.|pg||
mb|6D|mb|d|nt|scotty: Even 51h, maybe|pg||
nt|scotty: 5@h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2 hands in a row using 5N Choice of Slam|pg||
nt|kareno: So they have stretched a bit too far here.  West has a pretty hand but east doesn't fill the diamond gaps needed.|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome back Michael :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Michael :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Hi Michael :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we're into the final 30 boards to determine which team will be USA2 in the Sao Paulo Brazil Bermuda Bowl in late august/early sep|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Breaking News. The next World Bridge Series will be held from October 1–16, 2010, at the Marriott Hotel in Philadelphia. This will be the first time this Championship has been held ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: in the United States for 16 years|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Zia wants the extra IMP or 2|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2010philadelphia/default.asp  for more information|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fleisher team has been playing since day 1 - when round robin began|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Wow, fantastic! Thanks Roland :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: except yesterday|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell team began in USA1 Semi-Final where they were beaten by .... Fleisher|pg||
nt|scotty: West's 4@d bid looks attractive, but he needs 3 key cards to make 6@d - and partner might have tried 3@d with a hand that suitable|pg||
mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: So maybe West should content himself with 4N over 3N|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Zia had to double this also I think|pg||
pc|h9|nt|kareno: That's no better! but not doubled.  Hmmm.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell team now playing 4-handed  Freeman went home sick :(|pg||
pc|h2|nt|kareno: Recurrence of heart problems if you know?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Did they find out what was wrong?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not sure of ailment|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: they found out|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: what is it?|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: but it's not up to me to broadcast ailments|pg||
nt|kareno: West marked with only one heart.|pg||
nt|hedyg: did Fleisher think double was a Lightner?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Probably... that would explain 6NT.|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|scotty: West was influenced by their 2M opening style which is very sound - maybe he expected E to open that with this hand|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 8-12 According to their CC|pg||
nt|kareno: Too much outside of hearts!!|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|hedyg: agree|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|hedyg: that would show a better suit|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I would open that 1@h without thinking :)|pg||
nt|scotty: The slam West was most likely to miss by going low was 6@h, excellent opposite Axx, KJ10xxx, x, Axx and fair opposite @hKJ9xxx|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: But then I also pre-empt on trash|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|h3|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: It's interesting Zia didn't double 6NT also... |pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|mc|9|pg||
qx|o63|st||md|1ST5HKJT3DJ6CA9854,SQ2HQ954DT72CKJT3,SA97HADAKQ9843C62,SKJ8643H8762D5CQ7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|STR, ART, F|mb|2S|mb|d!|an|5-7|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: normal @HJ lead will lose the setting @C ruff|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|nt|mariner1: @c out needed|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|s7|pc|h2|pg||
nt|mariner1: no way for S to know that|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c63|st||md|1ST5HKJT3DJ6CA9854,SQ2HQ954DT72CKJT3,SA97HADAKQ9843C62,SKJ8643H8762D5CQ7|sv|n|nt|hedyg: happy with 11 imps|pg||
nt|kareno: North perhaps should have with diamonds locked up.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 6@d is good here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: non-double only cost 3 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: zia thought hamman would double with diamonds, but he acknowledged that it didn't matter|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Yes, 6@d is a lovely contract.|pg||
mb|1D|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: if this room isn't enough for you --  http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/   then one window per table|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Although a trump lead gives it problems a little|pg||
nt|hedyg: what about a @d lead? must find Q@H in W then|pg||
mb|d|mb|r|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: How about a loser on loser heart finesse :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: @c lead would be interesting also :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes @c lead might be more fun|pg||
nt|scotty: On @d lead in 6@d, you are basically cold if @d, 2-2 OR hearts 4-4 OR @hQ with W and hearts 5-3|pg||
nt|kareno: Club a bit tougher but I think declarer has answers for all leads |pg||
pc|s6|nt|scotty: Club lead looks the hardest by far|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: did RDBL show @S honor -- or something more magical?|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h6|pc|c4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dK|nt|mtvesuvius: yes, I think it may be down with a @c lead, since you cannot ruff out the @s or establish the @h in time I think|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|scotty: I don't think Zia would have bid 3N with the N hand.  He used to advise me "If you think you can make 5m, then investigate slam rather than settling for 3N" |pg||
pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s8|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hA|nt|kareno: Kamil carefully keeps two clubs so no squeeze.|pg||
pc|c7|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|sK|pg||
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qx|o64|st||md|2SAJ843HJD854CKQ96,SKQHA3DAK96CAJT73,S75HK87654DQ732C4,ST962HQT92DJTC852|sv|e|nt|mariner1: passout possible (I said it again :) )|pg||
nt|daman: down in 7@S in the CR    fell back on the @D finesse|pg||
mb|1C!|an|STR, ART, F|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that doesn't seem like best combination of chances    for 13 tricks|pg||
nt|daman: never even tried the @Hs|pg||
mb|1D|an|0-7|nt|ahollan1: top @D try for Q doubleton or @H 33 must be better than 50%|pg||
nt|daman: she even ruffed 2 @Cs to set it up for a dummy reversal|pg||
nt|mariner1: no way I open S here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: Pearson Points really meant for matchpoints [ouch it hurts just to type that word] say with close opener in 4th seat  add HCP + length in @S|pg||
mb|2N!|an|21-22|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|h6|pc|dJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h7|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|sT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|h9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|sJ|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg||
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qx|c64|st||md|2SAJ843HJD854CKQ96,SKQHA3DAK96CAJT73,S75HK87654DQ732C4,ST962HQT92DJTC852|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: 2N=20-22   is west too good for that?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I think so, but we'll see|pg||
nt|hedyg: Fleisher doesnt know either|pg||
nt|hedyg: stiff KQ not great|pg||
mb|2C|nt|mtvesuvius: Apparently it is|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: EW show controls over 2@C but Hamman gets in the way of Kamil saying "nada"|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: why? he can bid double to show that|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Many people play pass is positive here|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|hedyg: you just use the opps bid as a jumping stone|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I guess Kamil was trapping maybe|pg||
nt|kareno: Takeout double.|pg||
mb|2N|nt|kareno: I play double of 2@h directly shows 'second negative' hand.|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: but they play steps|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: I do also, Karen, it seems to work|pg||
nt|scotty: kamil unwilling to defend at this vul|pg||
nt|hedyg: the first step shows 0-1 control|pg||
nt|ahollan1: some pairs agree that DBL shows Double Negative, others say game force with no other call to make|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|mtvesuvius: 22.8 - http://www.jeffgoldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?hand=kq+a3+ak96+ajt73|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hard to convert to penalties at this vul|pg||
nt|scotty: Really tough hand to play|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: This will be a tough hand for Kamil, since he has extreme entry problems, and has alot of work to do|pg||
nt|ahollan1: much easier play for Kamil if contract is 2@HX|pg||
nt|scotty: I'd probably take 5 minutes to plan the play - and still not know what to do|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: now @c|pg||
nt|hedyg: then @d to the J|pg||
nt|kareno: Now a club |pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Hamman had to win that|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Now this could potentially make...|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
nt|scotty: 2@h, doubled would have not been so great if if they start !jD lead to !AK and a ruff.  Probably 300|pg||
nt|hedyg: Hamman knew that Zia has no more @hs|pg||
nt|kareno: I think ducking wasn't best here.  Tough hand to play or to defend I guess.|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh he didnt know|pg||
nt|scotty: How did Hamman know that?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: He doesn't, but I don't think it can hurt to win?|pg||
nt|kareno: diamond now?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: initial worry if win - Kamil takes 3@H tricks|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Zia does best to duck to maintain communications|pg||
nt|scotty: It would hurt to win first heart if declarer knocked out partners club trick, then later your @d trick - since partner would have no hearts to clear them|pg||
nt|hedyg: why not play @d for an entry to hand?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|barnets: no im in europe for 3 weeks|pg||
nt|barnets: sorry private|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|scotty: Defense also has difficulties here|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry if i missed -- did anybody in panel discuss @HA at trick 1? |pg||
nt|hedyg: no|pg||
nt|scotty: It loks as if Kamil has sniffed out the club position somehow |pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg||
nt|scotty: Hamman has a dilemma now|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Hamman has to exit a @d to beat it, but it's certainly not obvious at all|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: oh my|pg||
mc|9|nt|kareno: Nicely|pg||
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qx|o65|st||md|3SA9873HT6DAT95CAJ,SKT5HAKQ983DQ3CQ5,SQ642H5D8642CKT62,SJHJ742DKJ7C98743|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: if 15+ then open  [some say 14+]|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in encyclopedia this is also called Rule of 15  [which has 2nd definition that covers a lead convention]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Rob -- we've found an 11 that I would NOT open :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: try Cansino Count Al,,,,,, easier to say :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i mean East -- not North|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: I knew Cansino as convention over opp 1N -- didn't know there was another meaning|pg||
nt|ahollan1: RDBL = 3@H [support DBL]|pg||
nt|mariner1: same, add points and spades to get to 15 to open|pg||
nt|mariner1: so  a support REDBL|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry Rob phrase better -- note to make, since Support DBL/RDBL originally invented for use in context of Strong Club system - some 2/1 players play support DBL but NOT support ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: RDBL|pg||
nt|mariner1: on 83 Moss gained 10 back as the @S game was not found|pg||
mb|2S!|mb|d!|an|presumed to be INV !h raise|mb|p|nt|mariner1: I was thinking they might find the A@C lead to beat 4....... no chance though on 83|pg||
mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: the idea is that in context of big club - opener never holds strong hand, but in 2/1 maybe big hand|pg||
nt|mariner1: S in a fix here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Cohen not opening has really made things difficult for Pollack|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: players closing eyes resting, while she thinks|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: is DBL takeout??|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: is 2N nat or scramble?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: what is 2@H??  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: oy - who knows      open 1@D with north and none of these problems arise|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Stasha's eyes opened wide with the 4 spades call|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that said -- Sasha has been very consistent in NOT opening 11 count hands|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: when you're hot....|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this does have play |pg||
nt|daman: a lot of play|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: and @C spots figure to be key component|pg||
nt|daman: @H Queen in the slot...|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice shift|pg||
nt|mariner1: a trump out might have been better|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|mariner1: Migry putting her to test early|pg||
nt|daman: NS in the CR did will to gather +660|pg||
nt|daman: well*|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with good guesses can actually make 11 now -- but she'll look for best line to GUARANTEE 10 tricks|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: gee easy auction when N opened 1@D|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|mc|9|pg||
qx|c65|st||md|3SA9873HT6DAT95CAJ,SKT5HAKQ983DQ3CQ5,SQ642H5D8642CKT62,SJHJ742DKJ7C98743|sv|o|nt|mtvesuvius: They will be suprised when they will 1 there|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: win*|pg||
nt|scotty: That was a really tough hand.  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: politically correct speak:   lost opportunity|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: maybe Hamman also thought actual East hand would Pass 2@HX|pg||
nt|scotty: Zia might have helped by shifting to higher @d, but he didn't want to help declarer either|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: True... That would make it easier for Bob|pg||
mb|4S|mb|5H|nt|mtvesuvius: 4@h is off 4 cashing tricks|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Michael -- I know Hamman doesn't like to signal a lot, but what about Zia?|pg||
nt|scotty: Opponents are at 5-level and I have 3 aces - That's a bit easier, says Zia|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Nice bid by Hamman|pg||
nt|scotty: not if he bids again, though|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: NS leads are 4th vs suit & nt|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|kareno: No useful pitch on the spade for declarer.|pg||
nt|scotty: 4@s was a bid made to make opponents guess wrong - though with that little offense, there is the risk partner will guess wrong also|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
mc|9|nt|mtvesuvius: New leader now|pg||
nt|kareno: Nickell goes into the lead.|pg||
pg||
qx|o66|st||md|4SKJ9HA943DQ862CQT,SA8532HJ62DKC9843,S764HT7DJT5CA7652,SQTHKQ85DA9743CKJ|sv|n|nt|mariner1: slam NS here|pg||
nt|mariner1: 7 makes on Q@D find|pg||
nt|mariner1: my guess in 6N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the opening 1@C bid and lead of lowest outstanding @C made the distribution a sure thing|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|mariner1: and 6N it was in Closed Room|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: i've seen a number of pairs now play  1N-4@S as slam try with 4@C & 4@D -- but usually strength is Quantitative rather than slam force|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: 2@S is forcing or a weak minor|pg||
nt|mariner1: her next call describes which|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|onebid: I'd try 5NT - forcing to 6 inv to 7, with opener accepting by bidding suits up the line|pg||
pc|d6|nt|mariner1: is 4@D here treated as key card?|pg||
nt|mariner1: no alert so maybe not|pg||
nt|daman: it should be|pg||
nt|mariner1: Hi Judy|pg||
nt|daman: Hi Judy|pg||
nt|onebid: Hi guys - back again:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: decent treatment after MSS|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: writing on Cohen's side, not alerted by Pollack|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
nt|onebid: so, no swing|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Cohen, says 4d, rkc, response was 2 w/o Q|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4N does fit in with 4@D as KC|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahh thanks Chuck|pg||
nt|onebid: Rosie forgot to alert I guess|pg||
nt|ahollan1: knowing @DQ missing, Cohen settles for 6N|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow -- in other match Levitina-Sanborn bid AND MADE 7@S -- Dinkin now leads 144-130|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|mariner1: so will lose an imp|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|dJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|sJ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c66|st||md|4SKJ9HA943DQ862CQT,SA8532HJ62DKC9843,S764HT7DJT5CA7652,SQTHKQ85DA9743CKJ|sv|n|nt|hedyg: by a huge margin|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so we're down to a 25 board match|pg||
nt|kareno: Um ... we call that a convincing margin :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: sry|pg||
nt|scotty: I think it was sensible to bid 5@h with East hand.  He only had one chance to guess, and even if 5@h is the "wrong" guess, sometimes opponents do the wrong thing after.|pg||
mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|nt|kareno: That is not classical notrump shape, but a hard hand to bid without opening 1NT.|pg||
mb|2H|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: If Zia's hand was a little different, 5@h would have potentially had Zia make the incorrect guess, essentially what Hamman's 4@s did to Kamil|pg||
nt|kareno: That will end the auction.|pg||
mb|p|pc|d6|nt|kareno: You always want to force your opponent to make the last guess.|pg||
nt|scotty: i think it's interesting that partner is mathematically more likely to be short in @c than @d, which adds to the attraction of the 5@h bid.  Wouldn't be so surprising to find 4@s ...|pg||
nt|scotty: and 5@h both making if partner has a stiff club|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: South's short @cs will be a bit of a problem on this hand, although the @c spots should make it much easier|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Fleisher's 8@s is what makes this|pg||
nt|kareno: Did south really play the club queen?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: ok, that makes more sense|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: either way -- can't rule out Zia playing !Q |pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes -- heavy sarcasm |pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|s4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: killing defense|pg||
nt|ahollan1: brutal |pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Needed the 7@s too :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, they picked him clean.|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s3|mc|6|pg||
qx|o67|st||md|1S8653HAQJDKQ85CJ5,SJ942H6543D632C92,SAQT7HK87DJ94CT64,SKHT92DAT7CAKQ873|sv|e|nt|onebid: and Irina played it wide open|pg||
nt|mariner1: nice quiet 2@H here it seems|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ok Rob -- here's another 11 that i might not open|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|mariner1: 44 imps is a lot,,,,, Moss needs swing opportunities|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: that 7@S was board 82 -- sorry about confusion|pg||
nt|onebid: 11 seems to be the standard now. Used to be only when playing strong club|pg||
nt|onebid: yes, that's a lot of imps|pg||
nt|mariner1: well this one does have good @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think checkback mechanisms have helped reduce the minimum|pg||
mb|2S|nt|onebid: I agree with that. I check spades first befor deciding|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: true Al, if you open light your system needs to have good controls|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: lil break before dummy laid down|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hey -- when did Judy sneak in??|pg||
nt|mariner1: back when we all said Hi Judy :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: we all being George and I :)|pg||
nt|daman: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry -- i got dain bramage       i have other excuses if that doesn't work|pg||
mb|p|nt|onebid: drain bumpage?|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|onebid: Rob graciously opened the door:)|pg||
nt|mariner1: key play here|pg||
mb|3S|nt|onebid: Q seems right, but...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: while we ponder this hand .....  winners of this match play 32 more boards tonight  vs  loser of the other match|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|onebid: and more tomorrow?|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|nt|mariner1: yes 6 sessions in all|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|d2|nt|mariner1: 2 tonight and 4 tomorrow|pg||
nt|daman: Dinkin up by 16 in the final|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: losers from this match go home|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: winners from other match are USA 1 and get to celbrate|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|onebid: needs to duck club|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c67|st||md|1S8653HAQJDKQ85CJ5,SJ942H6543D632C92,SAQT7HK87DJ94CT64,SKHT92DAT7CAKQ873|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S!|an|4!s|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: Rodwell overcalled 1NT in the OR, giving away the location of the K@S, allowing declarer to drop it to make 3@s|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 2@s promises 4|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: alerting 2@S as corollary to Support DBL  [DBL=3@S, raise=4@S]|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is it surprise that Kamil gave up so easily?   @SK wasted, but still |pg||
pc|c3|pc|s8|nt|kareno: It surprises me - but it is a possible conservative view at the vulnerability against someone like Zia who doubles.|pg||
pc|s9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|hedyg: wd|pg||
pc|sT|mc|9|nt|mtvesuvius: well done|pg||
pg||
qx|o68|st||md|2S98HK73D52CQJT743,SJ52HT95D9743CK85,SAKQT64HQJ8DQCA96,S73HA642DAKJT86C2|sv|b|nt|mariner1: 3N reasonable aggressive spot here NS|pg||
nt|onebid: odd, but 4@S looks best|pg||
nt|mariner1: @H lead does 4@S in I think|pg||
nt|onebid: not an easy hand, but a better chance I think - minus that lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: they started playing board 89, so will skip to that board|pg||
nt|mariner1: can NS actually endup in 4@S though?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|an|STR, ART, F|nt|mariner1: back to the 3N or 4@S problem|pg||
mb|1D|nt|mariner1: that large lady is in the park, and is thinking about warming up|pg||
nt|onebid: Will she be on American Idol?|pg||
nt|mariner1: maybe we need a large man for a ladies game?|pg||
nt|onebid: Big Train?|pg||
nt|mariner1: Pavoratti|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hehe  walter is doing commentary in the other match|pg||
nt|onebid: And we like to say Women's game please|pg||
nt|mariner1: can Wojo sing?|pg||
nt|onebid: Walter a great analyst|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: mee mee mee mee|pg||
nt|daman: tough call for @S|pg||
nt|mariner1: NS might not be in 3N now?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: asks 3d?|pg||
nt|onebid: Chuck can sing@H|pg||
mb|d|an|5-7|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|mariner1: well might end up in 3N after all|pg||
nt|onebid: unless they go off the tracks|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: but I am not fat, large maybe|pg||
nt|mariner1: Migry made a good 3@D jump|pg||
nt|onebid: the Jxx @D ought to persuade her to bid 3NT|pg||
mb|3C|nt|onebid: after all, pard heard the opener|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p!|an|DBL would say don't lead|nt|ahollan1: Pollack's DBL was NEG  [takeout]|pg||
nt|mariner1: btw I do not love 1N with only Kx in @D,,,,,,,, admittedly many bid it|pg||
nt|onebid: looks suit oriented|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe the slow auction showed some help in @D rather than immediate 3@S|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: or just made 3@S invitational|pg||
mb|4S|nt|onebid: don't understand why she didn't start with 3@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Judy overcalls 1H?      I know Marshall Miles would|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|onebid: noooo|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: 2@C then -- please don't say DBL|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|onebid: 2@C it is|pg||
nt|ahollan1: phew|pg||
nt|mariner1: I would bid 1@H too  or 2@C.....|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
nt|mariner1: and I much prefer 1@H to the 2@C|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d6|pc|c3|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: hehe  i never guess the best suit to bid -- so 1N for me|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
mc|11|nt|mariner1: when I bid 1N overcall I want to have what looks like 2 stops|pg||
pg||
qx|c68|st||md|2S98HK73D52CQJT743,SJ52HT95D9743CK85,SAKQT64HQJ8DQCA96,S73HA642DAKJT86C2|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: why force partner to ruff trick 3?|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: 5@d expensive e/w.|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|scotty: Some play lebensohl here|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Spec comments that if west doesn't overruff, they may do better - generally with trump length, that can gain.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 4@s should make easily|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|scotty: So 3@c = values|pg||
mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: Not a bad idea to do that.. I haven't seen that treatment at all, but it seems logical|pg||
nt|scotty: With a "bad" 3@c bid, Zia would bid 2N, which shows either that, or a 3-level bid with a @d stopper |pg||
nt|kareno: Good treatment - 2nt almost never needs to be natural in that position.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if auction had gone 1@S-2@H  is lebensohl still best or 2N scramble|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|scotty: Hamman's 3@s bid might have been forcing by agreement.  I know Zia had this auction-type playing with Andy Robson once|pg||
nt|scotty: Declarer COULD go down if he decided to play West for @sJxxx - but I don't think that it's too likely he will go that way|pg||
pc|c2|nt|mtvesuvius: It's doubtful, but won't he still always make?|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: now definitely not going to play for @S41|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Everything is working at this point anyway|pg||
nt|hedyg: :) no way!|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: Kamil thinking @C ruff is only way to get plus score -- good IMP try to beat the hand|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c9|mc|11|nt|scotty: Kamil went for the simple defense - partner having @cA.  Probably the best chance|pg||
pg||
qx|o69|st||md|3SA5H984DQT3CQ8643,SQ98HK65DK875CK52,SJ642HQJ7D962CAJ7,SKT73HAT32DAJ4CT9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1N|an|up to 11 HCP|mb|p|nt|onebid: probably not, Rob|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: so we change hands|pg||
mb|p|pc|s6|nt|mariner1: 3N cold here|pg||
pc|sT|nt|onebid: South knows that's not solid clubs:)|pg||
nt|mariner1: a @H lead would have meant 12|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|mariner1: same auction in Closed Room here|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h2|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|nt|mariner1: in Closed Room E led a @S|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|onebid: I played in quite a few events with N - won a few - and she bids whatever appeals at the moment|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|mariner1: how did Closed Room only make 10 tricks?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: running clubs|pg||
pc|s3|nt|mariner1: oh N only had 7@C  I was seeing 8|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d7|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg||
pg||
qx|c69|st||md|3SA5H984DQT3CQ8643,SQ98HK65DK875CK52,SJ642HQJ7D962CAJ7,SKT73HAT32DAJ4CT9|sv|n|nt|kareno: West carefully ducking so as not to give pitches (but none were needed).|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Breaking News. The next World Bridge Series will be held from October 1–16, 2010, at the Marriott Hotel in Philadelphia. This will be the first time this Championship has been held ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: in the United States for 16 years|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2010philadelphia/default.asp  for more information|pg||
nt|scotty: 1D-2@h start here for E-W?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Looking at the press release I pointed you to, the most interesting thing is that the organisers believe Cuba will be officially invited to participate. That would be the first ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: official Cuban delegation to US soil in 50 years|pg||
nt|kareno: That will really be something!|pg||
nt|scotty: E-W should reach 1 or 2N here - assuming East opens|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok, i better start saving...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: specs asking -- Michael is correctly quoting EW Convention Card 1m-2@H = bal inv OR strong jump shift in @H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry just 1@D-2@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: I think everyone would open the E hand... so many spots even if you don't open 12 counts.|pg||
mb|1C!|an|all balanced except 3-3-5-2|mb|p|nt|scotty: Over 1@c, they just respond 1@d with a balanced invite, I think|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I like that treatment of 1m-2@H, it works really well|pg||
nt|scotty: Ah, but I forgot they OPEN 1@c with a doubleton and a balanced hand|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: 1@C-1N=7-10  so Fleisher downgrading for 4333 and unsupported honors|pg||
pc|s3|nt|scotty: Fleisher devaluing his hand slightly, I think.  Lack of spots and aces suggest going "low"|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Surrounding play of the Q@C perhaps now... a bit tough to find though|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|nt|scotty: Zia finds the best defense|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, nice.  Not exactly a surround play, though.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|scotty: but will not defeat 1N|pg||
pc|d2|nt|kareno: I had one of those a couple of weeks ago in Bournemouth, England :)|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|scotty: If declarer leads a heart off the board later, Zia will play 8 to prevent a duck to N|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|h8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: tool time commercial   K&R [kaplan rubens] Hand Evaluator says West hand worth 10.00  |pg||
pc|sK|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: check it out at http://www.jeffgoldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi|pg||
pc|h5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|c6|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o70|st||md|4S7HKT3DT9632CKJT2,SQJT84H742DQJ7CQ5,SAK9653HQ85DAKC76,S2HAJ96D854CA9843|sv|e|nt|mariner1: getting to slam was very good here in 2@C|pg||
nt|mariner1: Closed Room|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: if slow auction from Rozanne was invite, then 3N probably the most costly bid|pg||
nt|daman: unfortunately the Moss team is running out of time   7 boards to accumulate 45 IMPs     tall order|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well we can't say there haven't been enough slams this set|pg||
nt|daman: they had their chances|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|onebid: RKC should end the suspense|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|mariner1: 2@C good call|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think it is amazing that they even played this set -- after first 3 sessions it would have been very easy to give up|pg||
mb|p|nt|onebid: I totatally disagree - when I have 4 card support, I tell partner the good news right away!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right key feature is source of tricks NOT the singleton @D|pg||
nt|mariner1: will the 2@S jam them out of slam, or help|pg||
nt|onebid: hmmm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sounds like Judy does not have agreement that some have where immediate splinter guarantees an honor in all unbid suits|pg||
nt|onebid: I bid 2NT right away - not splinter|pg||
nt|mariner1: in Closed Room EW never bid|pg||
mb|1S!|an|3-suited|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: ahhh   i can live with 2N|pg||
nt|mariner1: I like Migry's style, she does not sit on her hands...........|pg||
mb|2S!|an|natural|nt|ahollan1: but abhor splinter|pg||
mb|p|nt|onebid: would anyone else bid 2@S?|pg||
nt|mariner1: if you sit on your hands you lose a lot of matches,,,,,,,,,, and have flat|pg||
nt|mariner1: hands..........|pg||
nt|mariner1: Migry is after a swing|pg||
nt|onebid: or flat... never mind|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in this situation -- i like -- don't think i'd always do it|pg||
nt|onebid: instead of 4@H, how about 4@D now?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: writing by Cohen|pg||
mb|2N|an|short spades|nt|ahollan1: hmm 4@H as picture bid?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 4@D after partner's natural 3@D sounds like a @D fit|pg||
mb|3N|nt|daman: 2@S serves a purpose   it gums up the auction and it might allow you and your partner to find a useful sacrifice if you have a fit   on the other hand, you could easily go for a ...|pg||
nt|daman: huge number for entering a live auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: S figures its on a hook at worst|pg||
nt|onebid: Yes - mis-saw auction|pg||
nt|ahollan1: my only question 3@H vs 4@H|pg||
nt|onebid: 3@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: 3@S seems too ambiguous -- about @S holding, and which red suit supported|pg||
nt|onebid: both black?|pg||
nt|onebid: round is clubs and hearts|pg||
nt|mariner1: I meant minor kings........ eyes spinning today|pg||
nt|onebid: mine too Rob:)|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: since 3@H forcing, i would assume 3@S=@D|pg||
nt|onebid: not on Stasha's auction certainly - but on mine:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or just trying to get to 3N|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: migry not thinking, |pg||
pc|dQ|nt|mariner1: both round K's in pocket,,,,, life is good and K@C is 3rd|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: Dinkin leads other match by 8     one table finished, i think, the other bidding 89|pg||
nt|onebid: had an eye exam and eyes were dilated|pg||
nt|onebid: 8 is really close|pg||
nt|ahollan1: duh   96 boards, not 90|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes and they have 8 boards left to compare|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think i had some of judy's eye drops|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's my story -- and i'm sticking to it|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sA|nt|mariner1: they need 1 imp a board in 8, and we need 8 imps a board here|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|nt|onebid: Levitina down in 6@C|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: wow|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|s5|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: swithing between windows -- how many calories does that consume?|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c70|st||md|4S7HKT3DT9632CKJT2,SQJT84H742DQJ7CQ5,SAK9653HQ85DAKC76,S2HAJ96D854CA9843|sv|e|nt|kareno: So staying low a great decision by west.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|mtvesuvius: For sure... Ugly 11, and 1NT was the max... Same spot in the OR though|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|mtvesuvius: Well, this will take a lot of work to make|pg||
nt|ahollan1: can meckwell get to 1N after nebulous @D?  i think so|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: yes, they did|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|kareno: Someone is asking which pair played against Zia-Hamman in set 3, boards 31-45.  Anyone know?|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm told it was Ekeblad/Weichsel.|pg||
nt|jtr: The same pair|pg||
nt|hedyg: check BBO bridge library|pg||
nt|jtr: yes right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: find @HJ = good   learn @S split = bad|pg||
nt|kareno: Thanks, specs :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Lead was helpful but ... |pg||
pc|s9|pc|c3|nt|mtvesuvius: No, it messed up declarer's entries, it was good for the defense|pg||
pc|d2|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: 7@h could have been from AJ97 so he could not play the Q@h|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d6|nt|kareno: Spec is asking about 'seating rights.'  That has to do with the order in which teams seat themselves.  When you have seating rights, your opponents must sit first and then you can ...|pg||
nt|kareno: choose how to sit around them.|pg||
nt|hedyg: he had the same number of cards in @d and in @s|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|kareno: Same contract in the OR and I'm sure with the same problems for declarer.|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|hedyg: the advantage in @d was a stiff honour or Hx with 1 opp|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|kareno: But @s queen is led there.|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|s8|pg||
pg||
qx|o71|st||md|1S642HQ983DQT8CJ96,SKQ98HAT74DJ7CT42,SJT3HJ65DAK96CA75,SA75HK2D5432CKQ83|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: nice push|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now 9 imps per board for MOSS|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: who gace Al the abacus back :)|pg||
nt|onebid: I think EW can make 3NT|pg||
nt|mariner1: gave|pg||
mb|1D!|an|can be short,|mb|p|nt|daman: I would have tried 2NT with the W hand in this situation|pg||
mb|1H!|an|could be 3, usually 4|nt|mariner1: 3N had play EW|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: she lays down the dummy and says the good news is that it's 50 a trick|pg||
nt|mariner1: I am with George, this was a swing chance|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N!|an|4+ cliubs I think|nt|ahollan1: in many parts of the world south might open 3@S instead of 2@S -- honestly, i have no strong feelings one way or the other, except maybe hand good enought so 2@S ends auction - as ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: here|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C!|an|random, interest|mb|p|mb|3H|an|random interest|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|onebid: 3 wouldn't occur to me I must admit. Rob?|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|nt|mariner1: not I either|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|daman: mancuso now up by 2|pg||
nt|onebid: It is true that many play extremely weak 2's|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in Australia/New Zealand, more an issue of hyperactive 3level preempts|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: of course for many of them 2@S would be 2-suiter|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|nt|onebid: well judged by Pollack to pitch losing diamond|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: quite a set for only 3 real swings|pg||
nt|mariner1: one issue I often see is teams play something that is popular in their area and so|pg||
nt|mariner1: it often is just a push, then they get into outside competition and it is hari kari.....|pg||
nt|mariner1: self destruction|pg||
pc|hK|nt|daman: Moss actually had a big chance to rally|pg||
pc|h3|nt|mariner1: 3@S here to me would be an example of that|pg||
pc|h7|nt|onebid: most of these women are experienced competitiors, however|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|nt|mariner1: true Judy, and we do not see that here at all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: would different vulnerability change your opinion?   [btw - i'm a 2@S opener too]|pg||
nt|daman: time for the uppercut|pg||
nt|mariner1: not for me|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|onebid: doesn't look like a 3 bid to me|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d5|nt|daman: didn't really matter|pg||
nt|onebid: unlucky lie of cards results in push|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we'd need Kit Woolsey hear to see if hyperaggressive preemptor ever opens south 3@S|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: hear here|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d9|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c71|st||md|1S642HQ983DQT8CJ96,SKQ98HAT74DJ7CT42,SJT3HJ65DAK96CA75,SA75HK2D5432CKQ83|sv|b|nt|vugraphu4: Kamil: they'd probably open my hand|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: Zia: how many did you have?|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: Kamil: 9|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 4500 specs between the two tables here, amazing|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: after trick two, zia commented, "something about that trick smelled." good table feel|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: i don't think Rodwell opens that|pg||
nt|kareno: Zia has a great sniffer!|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|hedyg: he didnt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually - with that shape, i don't think it was even close|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: Kamil isn't going to punish his partner for balancing|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|nt|hedyg: good lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: however -- in other room, South WILL respond to the artificial 1@D opener|pg||
nt|scotty: Zia is very brave - leading a trump playing with Hamman|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: He will hear about it later I bet :)|pg||
pc|d3|nt|hedyg: i understand Hamman does not like that?|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: Lew Mathe:  NEVER Lead Trump ..... unless it's right|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: from having seen about 60 of their boards, it's clear that Zia particularly enjoys annoying Hamman by leading trumps. Hamman looks disappointed -- even when it's right|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: lol|pg||
pc|sK|nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
nt|kareno: Fact is by ducking twice, Hamman has created a great defense.|pg||
nt|scotty: Excellent defense by Hamman to duck the second trump|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: many extra matchpoints if he can find the two heart ruffs|pg||
nt|scotty: echo|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|h4|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o72|st||md|2SJ94HK32DAJ752CKT,SAKQ8632H7DK96C43,S7HQJ8654DQ43C865,ST5HAT9DT8CAQJ972|sv|o|nt|onebid: Kit??? nah|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if kit doesn't open 3@S -- nobody does|pg||
nt|mariner1: EW running out of time and this board probably will not help|pg||
nt|onebid: well, maybe, but I'd be shocked if he did|pg||
nt|onebid: Is Susan Boyle going to sing?|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|daman: ikn the Final   Shawn Quinn overcalled 2@S with 2NT on Board 90    now in 3NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh - i don't think he will bid 3@S -- but sounds like our preempting strategies all the same -- so need kit for fringe opinion :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|daman: Board 91|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|onebid: lunatic fringe? lol|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hehe|pg||
nt|mariner1: in some past matches we have seen a lot of teams using very weak 2 level 2|pg||
nt|mariner1: suited calls which blew them apart,,,,, yes would be pushes in their own|pg||
nt|mariner1: areas....... these women play aggressive yet very disciplined|pg||
nt|onebid: Woolsey is a great player and commentator too|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: and his book on partnership defense is classic|pg||
nt|daman: Kit is a brilliant analyst|pg||
pc|hA|nt|onebid: also has a wonderful Barbu site|pg||
pc|h2|nt|mariner1: Al is not singing, will be making dinner,,,,,, he has all on a diet ment though|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|mariner1: menu|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Lynn-Beth play "Multi" 2@D with some ghastly hands|pg||
pc|s5|nt|onebid: as many do|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: see food diet|pg||
nt|ahollan1: [see food   eat food]|pg||
pc|sA|nt|onebid: I'll drink to that|pg||
pc|h4|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h6|nt|mariner1: I see someone open a 5 point or Less VUL vs NV 2 suiter at the two level and I|pg||
nt|mariner1: cringe|pg||
nt|daman: Quinn made 3NT on 91   now Mancuso by 9|pg||
pc|h9|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C as majors isn't Landy    they play 2@D=1-suit @H or @S, 2@H/@S = Major + Minor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not sure what name that treatment uses|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cQ|nt|mariner1: anyway we have 5 boards to score...... getting tight|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one vote for Multi Landy|pg||
nt|onebid: only 4 imps scored this set|pg||
pc|s8|mc|12|pg||
qx|c72|st||md|2SJ94HK32DAJ752CKT,SAKQ8632H7DK96C43,S7HQJ8654DQ43C865,ST5HAT9DT8CAQJ972|sv|o|nt|mtvesuvius: The lead has just been cut by 1/3|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|scotty: If they play that the way I do, it shows a good 7-card suit with fewer than 3 key cards|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: isn't that hand too good for 4@S esp opposite game force?|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: 4@s is a 0-1 loser 7+ card suit with less than three keycards|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: oh - sorry Michael was typing when your note popped up|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: It's good to have specific agreements|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|nt|scotty: Kamil figures solid spades, @cK and @d control too much to hope for|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|hedyg: so with A@d instead of K he could not bid 4@s|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: He would open Namyats or show his hand another way|pg||
nt|hedyg: right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: CC doesn't mention Namyats|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s5|nt|hedyg: no|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|scotty: He would start with 2@s or 3@s with 3+KC|pg||
mc|11|nt|mtvesuvius: ok, wasn't sure|pg||
pg||
qx|o73|st||md|3SJ8H862DKQ3CKQJ54,SA9HKQJ75DT75CA93,SKQT42H943DA984C6,S7653HATDJ62CT872|sv|e|nt|onebid: they are a great team. And Boyd getting Sportsmanship award in Washington this summer|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: now much here to hope for EW|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|15-17|nt|mariner1: not much|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d!|an|Meckwell|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: some discussion re 2d call|pg||
pc|h5|nt|onebid: Well, it looks as though Glasson will play loser of other match for USA II|pg||
nt|mariner1: @D lead means an imp...... otherwise flat|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|nt|mariner1: well we are now in a zero sum session - 24  to  24|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|mariner1: and a push coming here|pg||
nt|onebid: Is Al making dim sum for zero sum?|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: ba da bump|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: ooooo dim sum sounds GOOD|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cQ|mc|7|pg||
qx|c73|st||md|3SJ8H862DKQ3CKQJ54,SA9HKQJ75DT75CA93,SKQT42H943DA984C6,S7653HATDJ62CT872|sv|e|nt|scotty: Slam about 30% but we've all been in worse|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: and for all the specs now asking me what Namyats is, it is a 4m opening bid used to show a good 4M pre-empt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Stayman spelled backwards -- but Stayman didn't invent that convention either|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|kareno: It is 'Stayman' spelled backwards.  Generally shows a solid trump suit and (as I play it) no more than one suit outside with two quick losers.|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: http://www.pattayabridge.com/conventions/Namyats_main.htm|pg||
mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|kareno: Hamman makes a slightly off-color weak 2 bid.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 2NT is Lebensohl, a relay to 3@c|pg||
mb|3C|nt|hedyg: 2NT as in lebensohl|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: But west may bid 3@h instead even though it shows a better hand.|pg||
nt|hedyg: forces 3@c bid|pg||
nt|kareno: No, he bids 3@c and I doubt Zia will bid any more.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Zia is pretty happy now|pg||
nt|kareno: This is his dream result.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not everybody who plays lebensohl after 2M-DBL  also use it after balancing DBL|pg||
mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: He shouldn't double though... Favorable it's profitable enough|pg||
nt|kareno: He should just be checking that the cards all have the same color backs.|pg||
nt|scotty: When opponents are undoubled, he's never THAT happy|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: there's another one for you to talk over with partner|pg||
nt|kareno: Just this once he must be :)|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|kareno: I agree with a spec.  I would have actually bid 3@h rather than double.|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hT|nt|kareno: That ace of spades makes it impossible partner has a trap over 2@s|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|scotty: I don't think West's double would be the popular choice in the MSC - though it would certainly get votes.  I think 2N would be the top choice|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: 2N much easier if 3rd @S|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Not really, especially at this vul... Partner could still in theory have QTxxx or something... 2NT is strangely appealing with the West hand|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|d3|nt|kareno: Did Hamman notice the diamond king?|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|hedyg: Zia really wanted a @d to play @c|pg||
nt|kareno: That was such a shout for a diamond lead, not a spade, so Zia could get trumps on the table.|pg||
nt|vugraphu4: zia pitched the @d3 somewhat angrily|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yet another @H looks best now|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is frustrating when your partner ignores your cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: can't imagine any way this hand makes, so find best line for -1 or -2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|s2|pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: kaboom|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: That will be all|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o74|st||md|4SHQT53D7652CAQ843,S942HK72DK943CJ97,SKT765H64DAT8CKT6,SAQJ83HAJ98DQJC52|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: mathematicians haven't closed up shop yet|pg||
nt|mariner1: antepenultimate board of the match here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|daman: would we open 2@S with the S hand?|pg||
nt|mariner1: Al we call this position Mathemagical|pg||
nt|ahollan1: have any of the panel ever won more thanm 17 imps on a board?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|semi-forcing|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|mariner1: would we admit it :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|onebid: Bart did, when teammate came back and said "win 'em all"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: great line|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|onebid: Cohen trying for ruff|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: i'm in a loop -- can't figure out which is best defence -- so far any small black card seems right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but not positive about @S|pg||
nt|onebid: either works|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C THEN @S looks much easier|pg||
nt|mariner1: Al 2 24's would tie this up....... Mathemagically speaking|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: now 3rd @C|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: declarer doomed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: I like Rozanne's choice of @C rather than @S -- knowing there were TWO pitches available with @S switch|pg||
nt|mariner1: one thing about the next 6 session event, both teams are well warmed up, no|pg||
nt|mariner1: cobwebs, so I expect to see great play from the outset........ should be very|pg||
nt|mariner1: interesting|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|onebid: very close in Dinkin/Mancuso match - need a swing somewhere|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|h9|nt|mariner1: right Judy, 8 imps with 4 compares to go|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4 comparisons to go??   wow  Palmer table just finishing up 94|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h7|mc|8|pg||
qx|c74|st||md|4SHQT53D7652CAQ843,S942HK72DK943CJ97,SKT765H64DAT8CKT6,SAQJ83HAJ98DQJC52|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: Fleisher didn't notice Zia @D either :)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|kareno: Guess not!|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N!|an|semi-forcing|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|hedyg: this is most Zia has ever been ignored!|pg||
nt|scotty: Note Zia's pass - he is not a believer in light TO doubles|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Zia will probably try 2NT now|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: But now....?|pg||
nt|scotty: Pass or 2N?|pg||
mb|p|pc|d6|nt|hedyg: his partner seems to have lots of @ss, might be short in minors|pg||
pc|d3|nt|mtvesuvius: I might have tried 2NT, but pass looks like the winner|pg||
nt|kareno: Another good stop.|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|scotty: Advantage of 2N was that he was 5-4 the "right" way, so if partner with 3-3 bid 3@c (as he usually would) he'd find an 8-card fit|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: As he would in this case|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|kareno: Well, doubleton quack isn't worth the points without a fit.|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|scotty: The E-W auction is always scary for n-S with Forcing NT.  Danger that West bid 1N with 5-card spade support and a balanced load of junk.|pg||
nt|hedyg: why did he switch?|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Now K@D and 9@d through|pg||
nt|scotty: Zia switched to a heart hoping his partner had the jack.  He did not want to let declarer elope with small trumps easily.  He has no idea what the spade situation is|pg||
nt|scotty: Or little idea, anyway|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell 26-3 this set|pg||
nt|scotty: 1 more board this set, 16 in the match|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|hJ|pc|d5|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: and only 7 IMPs difference, exciting :)|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|d7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|s7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|kareno: Nicely done.|pg||
mc|8|nt|ahollan1: a plus is a plus|pg||
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qx|o75|st||md|1SKQ92HT43DKQ6CT43,ST7HQJ87D952C8752,S63HK2DAJT743CKQJ,SAJ854HA965D8CA96|sv|o|nt|mariner1: now 8 imps and 3 compares|pg||
nt|mariner1: penultimate board here...........|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one pair included in System Summary Form   2@D reverse after 1@C opening on min|pg||
nt|ahollan1: don't know what the means, but south hand made me think of it|pg||
nt|mariner1: our next 6 session MATCH for USA Team  2 will start in 136 minutes|pg||
nt|onebid: hardly minimum|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php - BBO Vugraph Schedule|pg||
nt|mariner1: (set up to show times for your area)|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: just the shame made me think of it|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|onebid: just not quite 9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: undo -- pollack decides NOT to play the singleton 10  :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: sorry, she's still thinking|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: very reasonalbe choice of 2N, don't you think?|pg||
nt|onebid: good choice by Rosie|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: just giving you grief Chuck -- for comic relief|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: saving the t for an entry|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Rob will say it officially soon, but WELL DONE CHUCK|pg||
nt|onebid: and she had 4 of them|pg||
mb|p|nt|onebid: 10s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if it doesn't count in pinochle -- 4 of a kind is meaningless|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: thast's an undo|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|nt|mariner1: so we can Congratulate Glasson Team, Moss team came back and made this|pg||
nt|mariner1: interesting....|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|nt|onebid: well done chuck - is that what's for dinner?|pg||
nt|mariner1: Glasson of course wins the chance to play in another tough contest..........|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: and shockingly -- we don't yet know who opponent will be|pg||
nt|mariner1: Al owes us several dinners now...........|pg||
nt|onebid: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: talk is cheap, let's talk turkey :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: duck, duck, goose?|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: it's official -- i've lost it|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: if i ever had it|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sA|mc|7|pg||
qx|c75|st||md|1SKQ92HT43DKQ6CT43,ST7HQJ87D952C8752,S63HK2DAJT743CKQJ,SAJ854HA965D8CA96|sv|o|nt|hedyg: last board for this segment|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: and a partscore to finish us off here|pg||
nt|hedyg: thanks to our operator Dan Wolkowitz for a great job! to the USBF and especially Jan Martel for sharing this event with us! and to my excellent fellow commentators Michael ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: Rosenberg, Shirley Ybarra, Al Hollander, Karen Allison and Adam Kaplan!|pg||
nt|kareno: Generally with a hand as good as east's, you do get another chance.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|mtvesuvius: Thanks All :)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|hedyg: we will be back at 3:10 pm Los Angeles, 6:10 pm New York, 00.10 Tuesday Paris, 11:10 pm London, 8:10 am Tuesday Sydney|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Well Done DAN!!|pg||
nt|hedyg: thank you all for joining and for your helpful comments. we hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
nt|kareno: And to you, Hedy :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|scotty: Partscore is quite a prediction.  N-S have 24 HCP and a 6-card suit|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Anyone for a 1NT opener from North (specs are interested :))|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: teams can agree to restart early -- do don't rely upon the posted schedule|pg||
nt|kareno: Not here.|pg||
nt|scotty: Zia bid 1N, but he's THINKING 2N|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: see you back in 25 Minutes or so :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: All on the lead|pg||
nt|scotty: And spade is totally normal|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Q@H will have this down 2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|mtvesuvius: @s will let this through|pg||
nt|hedyg: would, Adam, would!|pg||
nt|kareno: Why should west not lead his partner's suit?  |pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: would* :)|pg||
nt|scotty: But would anyone even THINK of the @hQ lead if dummy had @hA10x facing Kxx and a spade lead were successful?|pg||
nt|kareno: Generally when you overcall it is because you want your suit led.|pg||
nt|hedyg: W has no excuse to lead anything else|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Right, @s seems to be a normal lead|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: East DBL or 1@S -- they've only been discussing that since takeout doubles invented in late 1920s -- don't hold your breath for a definitive answer until next millenium - and maybe ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not then|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: East could have doubled 1@d, that would give an option of a @h lead|pg||
pc|c4|nt|kareno: East can't do anything now - heart lead would give up trick nine.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|scotty: I think Meckwell prefer to double with the East hand.  I never know what to do.  if you double, you might miss a 5-3 spade fit (and you are not strong enough for further action) If ...|pg||
nt|scotty: you bid 1@s...well, you saw what happened here |pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, but I generally overcall and so do many players - it's a matter of style.|pg||
nt|kareno: I generally overcall, intending to take further action.|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|hedyg: for the exciting last segment|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: didn't this make with an overtrick?|pg||
mc|10|nt|hedyg: if you get another chance Karen|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: ok, thanks all :) |pg||
nt|hedyg: it did|pg||
nt|hedyg: bye for now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: dbl with 4@S & 5@H makes more sense to me than 5@S & 4@H  [because partner MAY bid 1@H with 3@H & 3@S]|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: ok, thx all :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: they're starting last board in other room now|pg||
nt|scotty: Also, the "SLOW" N-S auction - 1N, 2N 3N was more suggestive of a spade lead.  Had N jumped to 3N, now you picture the possibility of long @d, and you might attack somewhere else ...|pg||
nt|scotty: (though normally you'd at least like to have a 5-card suit)|pg||
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