vg|Norway KM Teams 2008,Finale 1st half,I,1,16,Team Mæsel,0,Team Jensen,0| rs|2DEx-3,3NS+1,4SE-1,3SE=,4HW-1,4HW-1,4HW+1,4HW+1,4HEx-2,4HEx-1,4SN+1,4SN-1,1NW+1,2NE+1,4HE+1,4HE+1,3CN+1,3NN-1,2DS+1,4HN-1,3HN-1,2CS-2,2SS+1,1NE=,2DE=,1NS+1,3NE=,3NE=,4SS+1,3NWx-1,3HEx-2,2SN+1| pn|Høiland,Svindal,Aalberg,Baumann,Stray,H Mæsel,Jensen,R Mæsel|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SA92HAJ85DKJ96CQJ,SKJ84HT94D2CA7542,SQT53HKQ73DQCKT63,S76H62DAT87543C98|sv|o|nt|vugraphzew: hi all|pg|| nt|jaapfr: makes 5@S and 6@C|pg|| nt|chick: Hi Denis, welcome back ;)|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: http://nncup.org/index.htm|pg|| nt|cicus: hi everyone|pg|| nt|cicus: hmm, nice 7-6 hand at South|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: re Gabor:)|pg|| nt|cicus: hi|pg|| nt|cicus: hello everyone|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: http://nncup.org/page_08_e.htm|pg|| mb|1C|nt|chick: This is a Goulash tournament|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 7@C here|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: hi all :)|pg|| nt|cicus: welcome to csilims, our only kib :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: great contract|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: lets see if they bid it|pg|| mb|2D|nt|vugraphzew: hi all )|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: good morning all:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: The hands are deliberately dealt to create unusual or extreme distributions.|pg|| nt|chick: As a result, bidding systems are minimal, and the trick is to find a fit quickly (if you have one, which you often don't) :)|pg|| nt|cicus: first 5 boards of the 10 board final|pg|| nt|sybarra: canape into @H maybe |pg|| nt|sybarra: if S lets them |pg|| nt|sybarra: a brutal hand nothing makes |pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: When you do have a fit, the trumps are often split 5-0 :)|pg|| nt|cicus: I have had 7-6 4 times in my life but none of them was as powerful as this|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: hi all )|pg|| nt|cicus: this is played in goulash, which means the distributions will be wild|pg|| mb|d|nt|cicus: hi Aida|pg|| nt|cicus: don't be surprised to see 10-card suits and 8-5 distributions|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: It makes for an exciting game, if not very technical :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|cicus: cautious 1@S opening, expecting high level competition|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|aida_mk_nl: The tournament is being held on "goulash" deals, prepared on the basis of a special algorithm. |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: on a @D lead is down thou|pg|| nt|cicus: E should have X-ed for the lead|pg|| pc|c2|nt|aida_mk_nl: good morning Gabor :)|pg|| nt|cicus: S wants to play 4@H redoubled , it seems|pg|| nt|Walddk10: Hello Aida and Gábor|pg|| nt|cicus: West's 2@C is a mistery to me|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: hi Roland :)|pg|| nt|cicus: hi Roland|pg|| nt|Walddk10: 10 boards divided into 2 segments of 5|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: no need :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| nt|chick: perfectly good sacrifice|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|aida_mk_nl: good lead from W|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: 2@c was Ask for Aces|pg|| pc|cA|nt|chick: This Goulash tournament is fairly new, BBO has been broadcasting it for about 3 years now.|pg|| nt|chick: The hands are deliberately dealt to create unusual or extreme distributions.|pg|| nt|Walddk10: Hello Cornelia and Jaap|pg|| nt|chick: As a result, bidding systems are minimal, and the trick is to find a fit quickly (if you have one, which you often don't) :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: hoi all|pg|| nt|chick: Hoi Jaap :)|pg|| nt|Walddk10: South has a good hand :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: W knew about void of @s|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jaapfr: hoi cornelia Roland|pg|| nt|chick: When you do have a fit, the trumps are often split 5-0 :)|pg|| nt|chick: It makes for an exciting game, if not very technical :)|pg|| nt|Walddk10: But as usual, partner has rubbish|pg|| nt|cicus: S may feel disappointed (no one X-ed)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: yes :)|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jaapfr: DD can make 7@C|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|aida_mk_nl: and good contract |pg|| nt|cicus: of course, E has 2 trump tricks|pg|| pc|dA|nt|chick: although of course 7@C fails, W can't think that with the bidding|pg|| nt|jaapfr: if played by N|pg|| nt|chick: ah, you are right, because no clubs to lead in E|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|h2|nt|cicus: and dia,monds also unfriendly so it looks like 2 down |pg|| nt|vugraphzew: (dobrin)|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|nt|jaapfr: ok -1|pg|| nt|chick: It's also quite a challenge in the play of the hand and defense|pg|| nt|sybarra: now "gin"|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 2 down not dbld , not the end of the world :)|pg|| pc|cK|nt|chick: Knowing that suits are breaking badly gives lots of room for creative play|pg|| pc|d3|nt|cicus: well if you were in 6@H you'd feel it might come in|pg|| pc|d9|nt|jaapfr: duck by S a bit of an error|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|aida_mk_nl: too bad they KNOW is goulash :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d4|nt|aida_mk_nl: A@S?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|nt|cicus: someone should claim|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: yes|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d5|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SA92HAJ85DKJ96CQJ,SKJ84HT94D2CA7542,SQT53HKQ73DQCKT63,S76H62DAT87543C98|sv|o|nt|werge: A quiet start 450/420|pg|| nt|werge: But better let South play the contract|pg|| nt|snorris: 4 @h is yhe likly contract|pg|| mb|1C|mb|2D|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|werge: South avoids all ruffs now|pg|| nt|snorris: though 3nt is ok|pg|| pc|d2|nt|werge: Good bidding in fact|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Baard Olav Aasan (BOA) from Norway|pg|| nt|werge: Is the @D 2 invitational...?|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|baardolav: Hello all|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|s3|nt|snorris: hi|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SJHAK6543D73CAQ76,SK987HJT8DAJ92CK9,ST53HQ92DKT86CJ82,SAQ642H7DQ54CT543|sv|n|nt|cicus: funny hands|pg|| nt|cicus: 3NT seems best here for NS|pg|| nt|cicus: they are of course aware of the nature of the deals|pg|| nt|sybarra: you are always a little hesitant to X in goulash, but the other room was not |pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: but here 7@C will be made due to normal @HA lead|pg|| nt|cicus: so they try to adjust their bidding to the circumstances|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jaapfr: best play @SA and ensure as S down 1|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: good save in other room|pg|| nt|cicus: weird bidding is also not unexpected|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: most doubles in goulash are penalty :)|pg|| nt|cicus: sometimes the players create extra twists to the wild deals|pg|| mb|2H|nt|jaapfr: you perfectly rite about the 5-0:)|pg|| nt|cicus: N and S have only 9-card suits here|pg|| mb|2S|nt|aida_mk_nl: when i played goulash 1st time, my partner experianced goulash player says: bud always one level less ":)|pg|| nt|sybarra: I find the canape opening interesting dont you?|pg|| mb|4H|nt|cicus: excellent stop|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: *bid|pg|| nt|cicus: luckily , spades are 2-0|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: i have no opinion :)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|chick: probably a good agreement to have that ALL doubles are penalty :)|pg|| nt|cicus: N can't ruff @HA|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: yes lucky |pg|| nt|cicus: N wisely leaves this alone|pg|| nt|cicus: well done|pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: finally a normal 4@H C|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: will Ershov try?|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: nope|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: would have been a good try |pg|| nt|cicus: I think he had to|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: yes|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: seeing all @H in dummy|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: i prefer strong @C openings, or polish @C|pg|| mb|p|nt|cicus: everyone is expecting his trumps to be 6-0 by the opponents|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: I just love to watch goulash , not to play IT :)|pg|| pc|hA|nt|chick: but a 2-0 split :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: right !|pg|| nt|cicus: this is the normal distribution of the heart suit at goulsh|pg|| pc|h8|nt|sybarra: not sure a club system is best in goulash |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: usually there are special systems for goulash|pg|| pc|h2|nt|sybarra: and opening the shorter suit first probably has some merit sometime |pg|| nt|sybarra: agree Aida usually special systems |pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: in a -4-9 fit bid 3nt |pg|| nt|cicus: and we usually treat AKQ 7th as a solid suit ...|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: Just AKQ is a NOT solid suit! :)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|s2|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: Not always )|pg|| nt|cicus: anyway, club tricks can't run away, so he played for nothing|pg|| pc|c5|nt|chick: As here, entries can be a terrible problem in goulash, too|pg|| nt|jaapfr: but S missed 5@C made|pg|| pc|c7|nt|cicus: S will be surprised to see his diamonds breaking |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: i think N pass was friendly |pg|| pc|cK|nt|aida_mk_nl: he could afford to bid 2@C|pg|| nt|sybarra: but maybe if he knows its canape, he didnt want e/w finding a better spt |pg|| nt|sybarra: *spot |pg|| nt|sybarra: I think he was sure pard (S) had @H |pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: he have to play now @H|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: and home|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|chick: even with an A, it's often the case it will be ruffed|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|nt|chick: must still lose a diamond ...... next hand :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: y|pg|| pc|s7|nt|cicus: yes, both opps endplayed but this @SA hurts|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: looks like 1 down|pg|| nt|sybarra: I played with my pard in a MP goulash tourney on bbo last night, it was a riot!|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: I prefer NOT TO play goulash :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: but I LOVE to watch|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s6|nt|aida_mk_nl: now too late|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jaapfr: this -2 i presume|pg|| pc|sK|nt|sybarra: this is one of my favorite tourney to comment on |pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jaapfr: can -3|pg|| nt|chick: from N's point of view, 5@C wasn't secure and with his top honors and spade holding, can't blame him for doubling|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|jaapfr: true|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|jaapfr: but mb as S 5@C|pg|| pc|c4|nt|aida_mk_nl: ah did you see the small @S play would have briing him home|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SJHAK6543D73CAQ76,SK987HJT8DAJ92CK9,ST53HQ92DKT86CJ82,SAQ642H7DQ54CT543|sv|n|nt|snorris: 4h again|pg|| nt|baardolav: A narrow 4@h makes NS here... and a 4@s ew?|pg|| mb|2S!|an|5 + 4minor|mb|3H|nt|snorris: yes|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|baardolav: They did not find the potentiale in the hands... I sounder if West should just bid 4@s|pg|| nt|baardolav: If down, it is a great safe, and itj can make sometimes|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|werge: Did anybody tell me, what 2 @S is/was?|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c4|nt|baardolav: 2@s is 5 spades and a 4+ minor 6-10|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|cJ|pc|c3|nt|werge: The West has a 4 @S - because of his minors|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQJT83HQ7D8CT7632,SA64HAKJ96DQJ73C5,SK7HT84DAKT62CQJ8,S952H532D954CAK94|sv|e|nt|cicus: only 8-card suits here|pg|| nt|sybarra: right, he was hoping to stuff S in |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: almost :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: as you said before, -1 undoubled not the end of the world|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: now 7@S |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: lets see if they bid it|pg|| mb|2D|nt|cicus: 5@S seems the limit of th ehand|pg|| mb|2H|nt|cicus: balanced hands now|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: pass?|pg|| nt|sybarra: really pass by E?|pg|| mb|d|nt|chick: finally, a hand with trump fits :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: did you see the hands before (another 5-0) lol|pg|| mb|3H|nt|chick: looks like an opening 7S to me|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: yes )|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: hihihih|pg|| mb|p|nt|cicus: this may be passed out|pg|| mb|4D|nt|jaapfr: 7@S C ok next hand:)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 3@S might make |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: no 2nt from S?|pg|| nt|cicus: he tries to outwit the dealing machine|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: EW needs to find their clubs|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: do they play strong pass? :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: going for the double perhaps |pg|| mb|4H|nt|chick: NS need to find their hearts|pg|| nt|chick: as goulash goes, these kind of hands are extreme but boring|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 2@S?|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: oh|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 5@C :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: so far neither side is bidding their best fit :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: a simple 7@C C:)|pg|| nt|chick: only possible way it goes down is a club ruff at trick 1|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: 5@D too|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: no|pg|| pc|h4|nt|cicus: I'd have bid 2@S, passing is masochism|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: now |pg|| pc|h2|nt|jaapfr: not with @S lead though|pg|| nt|chick: seems like NS should stick in a heart bid somewhere|pg|| nt|cicus: it is normal to underbid, as you can expect your trumps to be stacked against yoz|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|cicus: *you|pg|| nt|cicus: as pades here|pg|| nt|cicus: *spades|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|jaapfr: oh what a great 6@C bid|pg|| nt|sybarra: shoot it out at 6 |pg|| pc|hK|nt|aida_mk_nl: RIGHTTTTTTT|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: ugh!|pg|| pc|h8|nt|aida_mk_nl: kind of ugly contract|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: W will be diapointed|pg|| pc|h3|nt|chick: it isn't lost on E :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: @S @S @S |pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|c5|nt|aida_mk_nl: I was wondering the Right word for his pass :)|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|nt|aida_mk_nl: Gabor you found it|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: if 5@S means ptr bid 6 if good @S suit, what do you expact if ptr hold K10xx in @S?|pg|| nt|sybarra: I can hear the groan even here |pg|| pc|c3|nt|jaapfr: thiss X mb penalty::))|pg|| nt|jaapfr: only 1100 i presume|pg|| nt|chick: count signals on defense are paramount in goulash :)|pg|| nt|chick: sounds about right :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: paramount=?|pg|| nt|chick: most important|pg|| pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|jaapfr: a bit crazy 7@S imho|pg|| pc|d4|nt|vugraphzew: sorry )|pg|| nt|chick: wow :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: oh goulash change to 7@C again:):)|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|nt|jaapfr: ah no 7@S????|pg|| nt|chick: as I said, exciting at least :)|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|hT|nt|cicus: I1m told at goulash you had to bid this way|pg|| pc|h5|pc|sQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d3|nt|aida_mk_nl: 2down |pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: probably 2@H was @H and minor? but how to show the strenght ?|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQJT83HQ7D8CT7632,SA64HAKJ96DQJ73C5,SK7HT84DAKT62CQJ8,S952H532D954CAK94|sv|e|mb|2S!|an|5+4|nt|baardolav: 3@h makes ew here... |pg|| mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|baardolav: Now jensen put some great pressure on EW, bidding 3@s Kx... |pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| nt|werge: 2 @S is popular in Norway...|pg|| pc|sK|nt|baardolav: Yes, and it is effective|pg|| nt|werge: I agree|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|baardolav: opening 2@h 2@s on hands other pass and bids later...|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|baardolav: Then opps know more what to do|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|s6|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d5|nt|baardolav: still down... |pg|| pc|s3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d2|nt|baardolav: 2@h 2@s openings like this have to be combined with Multi 2@d |pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| mc|9|nt|baardolav: And when you use multi, you can open 2nt both minor|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SKQJ64H6DQT3CJT84,ST82HAKQ982D2CK93,SA9HJ54DJ954CQ652,S753HT73DAK876CA7|sv|b|nt|chick: when that isn't possible, just claim and move on|pg|| nt|cicus: X first with 8 tricks in hand?|pg|| nt|cicus: how red east looks|pg|| nt|cicus: 7@D is on, 7@H not|pg|| nt|cicus: unless played from the west hand|pg|| nt|cicus: can they bid 7@D?|pg|| nt|sybarra: well pard did bid 4 @D seems to me you should be in at least 6 |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: this is also great board|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: if E knows K@D drops :)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jaapfr: @HA definitely 0 chance|pg|| nt|cicus: 1NT= balanced hand|pg|| nt|sybarra: there he goes again with a pass |pg|| nt|sybarra: may never get back in to bid |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: he can make 6@S on any lead except @D|pg|| nt|sybarra: yep|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: :) on a good day|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: what will you bid with S hand ? |pg|| nt|cicus: now bid one less means 5@D only|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: after this segment we will play final - 2 segments per 5 boards also|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: on a good day we all bid 4@S :)|pg|| nt|cicus: 4@S|pg|| nt|cicus: hard to locate @HAK and then play the hand at @D's|pg|| nt|cicus: it seems 2NT is some 2-suiter|pg|| nt|cicus: they may not have a bid for balanced hands :)|pg|| mb|2C|nt|jaapfr: 5@D|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: yes but depends on agreement|pg|| nt|sybarra: and I think he would get a @D lead or does S lead a @C?|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 6@S? now?|pg|| mb|p|nt|cicus: 4@D then 5@H maybe?|pg|| nt|cicus: I feel it is a mainly guesswork|pg|| nt|cicus: east is trying to find some sensible way to show his hand|pg|| mb|2H|nt|cicus: open room could only find 6@D|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: ah :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|cicus: 3 7-5-s and a 7-6 :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :) LOVELY|pg|| nt|cicus: no, I can't believe this|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: the Solomon Solution :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: now what does S lead? |pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: whatever he leads E never comes in his hand|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: now|pg|| mb|4D|nt|vugraphzew: Denis|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: Hi Denis :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: hi )|pg|| nt|cicus: 3NT on a singleton as stopper ?:)|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: 11../|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|cicus: it looks it was N who should have bid 3NT|pg|| mb|4H|nt|chick: 4@S would make on a red suit lead, but now that opps have discovered they have clubs..|pg|| mb|p|nt|cicus: sry one 7-5 is 6-6|pg|| nt|sybarra: would never have guessed the contract I am afraid |pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: i really think now 5@D is asking for trouble|pg|| nt|cicus: well, no cross-ruff is going to sink this contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: nice @C switch|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: think this is best contr|pg|| nt|cicus: Volkov must be furious|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|aida_mk_nl: pitty for all @S|pg|| pc|sA|nt|chick: good lead, as long as the defense keeps the lead in W's hand, they get a lot of hearts|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|cicus: normally, you would like to play 6@D|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|chick: 5@D too easy |pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d2|nt|vugraphzew: we play 2 segments per 2 boards|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jaapfr: -3|pg|| pc|dA|nt|aida_mk_nl: 2 down |pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|cicus: hi all|pg|| nt|jaapfr: that was a 2860 lead if @S lead last board|pg|| nt|chick: Hi Gabor @H|pg|| nt|jaapfr: hoi gabor|pg|| nt|cicus: will you close the room after 5 boards?|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: yes|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|s8|pc|d4|pg|| nt|cicus: which can be seen from his play of the hand|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|hT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|nt|aida_mk_nl: not the &?|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 7?|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SKQJ64H6DQT3CJT84,ST82HAKQ982D2CK93,SA9HJ54DJ954CQ652,S753HT73DAK876CA7|sv|b|nt|werge: 4 x @S againsr 4 @H...|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|baardolav: An easy 4@h ew... but down if NS play 4 rounds of spade|pg|| mb|2C|an|toronto|nt|baardolav: yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|werge: OK - in teams @S Ace is a possible lead|pg|| nt|baardolav: Yes it is|pg|| pc|d5|nt|werge: - and then discard the @C Q|pg|| nt|baardolav: Did not find the lead, someone that would bid 2@s in south hand?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| nt|baardolav: LIke a leading bid... EW have bid 2/1|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|werge: To let them stay out of a makeable game...|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|hT|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|h8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQT6H6DAKQ87C8752,SKJ9853HT853DJ32C,SA742HA97D4CAKQ63,SHKQJ42DT965CJT94|sv|n|nt|cicus: hello Cornelia, Jaap|pg|| nt|bobh1: hi everyone|pg|| nt|cicus: otherwise it might be hard to know when we restart|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: ok we will be ready :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: gm sorry to be late|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: too early for beer in Moscow?|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: maybe he bids the @S suit this time |pg|| nt|cicus: 10-card solid spades are the theme of this tournament|pg|| nt|sybarra: never too early for beer |pg|| mb|1C|nt|chick: Hi Bob :)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jaapfr: hoi bob|pg|| nt|cicus: peculiar NT range|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: last one|pg|| nt|cicus: ah, Shirley, welcome|pg|| nt|cicus: my keyboard is in flames|pg|| nt|sybarra: Gabor, look at bd. 19 |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: pass ? :):):)|pg|| mb|2D|nt|aida_mk_nl: admirable to find 3nt contract in such a hands|pg|| mb|3S|nt|chick: standard bidding systems don't mean much in goulash|pg|| mb|3N|nt|jaapfr: 4@S C a quiet goulash here:)|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: iwe will continue in 10-15 minutes|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: probably any balanced hand :)|pg|| nt|chick: they are rare :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: i sympathize in goulash to show 1NT if possible|pg|| nt|sybarra: my pc got hung up on the start up |pg|| nt|cicus: mmm, quite a hand, but spades were only 8-card long|pg|| nt|sybarra: and another 6 @S out the window |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: yes , not a REALLY solid suit :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: and this is 7@S on K@C drop :)|pg|| nt|cicus: goulash system|pg|| nt|cicus: this can be set if E does not touch diamonds|pg|| nt|cicus: this is just making|pg|| nt|sybarra: or maybe only 5 if no club lead |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 6@S i think is not makable|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: only on a @H lead|pg|| nt|cicus: good lead, makes on a club or heart|pg|| nt|sybarra: agree, 2 ht losers |pg|| mb|4H|nt|cicus: phantom save|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: we were talking about solid suits before? :)|pg|| nt|cicus: 10 to AKQ usually suffices...|pg|| nt|cicus: he did|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobh1: i would think the multi 2d overcall would be particularly bad at goulash|pg|| nt|jaapfr: i said 4 not 6:)|pg|| nt|chick: another example of entry problem in goulash, no way to take the diamond finesse|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: we will continue tomorrow - SF and FINAL of tournament|pg|| nt|chick: must give up D and will also lose a spade|pg|| nt|chick: Great job by our excellent vugraph operator, Denis!!!|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 2@D so -2|pg|| nt|chick: yes|pg|| nt|jaapfr: ty denis|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: yes 6@H was down |pg|| mb|p|nt|cicus: and this one goes for 500|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: N know he cant reach dummy|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|vugraphzew: tx all|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: looking forward to seeing you tomorrow|pg|| pc|d4|nt|sybarra: you needed to say that earlier perhaps |pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|bobh1: in this case maybe it was lead directional|pg|| nt|cicus: BTW, note S initial pass|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: but after 5@C will you bid 6@S or 7?|pg|| pc|dK|nt|sybarra: to hold to 5, this will require some great signally from n/s|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s4|nt|cicus: 6 only, as 4@D probably denied king|pg|| nt|cicus: @CK , I mean|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|nt|aida_mk_nl: No is quite happy with dummy|pg|| pc|c3|nt|aida_mk_nl: and with contract|pg|| nt|cicus: end of first half|pg|| nt|sybarra: how soon are be back?|pg|| nt|sybarra: *we|pg|| nt|cicus: 35 IMPs is not at all impossible to recover|pg|| nt|cicus: maybe 15 minutes|pg|| nt|cicus: I don't know if the room will be closed and restarted (which is better as we don't have to hang on here)|pg|| nt|cicus: operator?|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|hT|pc|s2|nt|cicus: W simply "new" partner is going to ruff it :)|pg|| nt|cicus: both pairs have were doing quite well. I think|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|cicus: *knew|pg|| nt|chick: probably, otherwise partner would have supported|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: we will continue in 15-20 minutes|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 4 commentators and 9 kibs:):)|pg|| nt|chick: interesting, 5 boards and a break |pg|| nt|chick: yeah, but think how much those 9 kibs will enjoy us :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: 10 boards - 2 segments per 5 boards|pg|| nt|cicus: we are 3 of those 9|pg|| nt|cicus: or 4|pg|| nt|jaapfr: in other room against 7@C was a @S lead:)|pg|| nt|cicus: this is where a true commentator can show, to talk without deals|pg|| nt|jaapfr: ok so we must entertain eachother: Cornelia you dance with me:)?|pg|| nt|cicus: she's gone with another Jaap, I'm afraid|pg|| nt|jaapfr: :(|pg|| nt|cicus: brb|pg|| nt|chick: hehe, just getting some lunch in the break :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: i invited you to dance:(|pg|| nt|chick: I don't think I've ever seen 21 IMPs on a single board before|pg|| nt|chick: that hand probably decided the match|pg|| nt|jaapfr: the @S lead|pg|| nt|chick: yes, and the difficulty of judging the right level to stop and double the opps in goulash :)|pg|| nt|chick: Jaap, I would love to dance with you, I'll check into airline tickets to The Netherlands, are you free next weekend?|pg|| nt|jaapfr: i am in INdonesia though:(|pg|| nt|bobh1: slightly longer trip|pg|| nt|chick: arghhh, kinda far|pg|| nt|cicus: lucky you haven't booked hose tickets in haste|pg|| nt|cicus: *those|pg|| nt|jaapfr: :)|pg|| nt|bobh1: anyway, should Jaap come to you Chick? He's the one who asked|pg|| nt|chick: always welcome @H@H|pg|| nt|chick: our Nationals starts in a week or so, we could play bridge in the afternoons and dance our way through the evenings :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: i am above 6 feet and almost 200 pouns|pg|| nt|chick: but can you dance? :)|pg|| nt|cicus: no problem if you only use your own legs|pg|| nt|bobh1: i'll bet you really stand out against those Indonesians Jaap|pg|| nt|jaapfr: better bridge than dance to be truthful|pg|| nt|chick: well, I already know you are good at bridge :)|pg|| nt|cicus: same for me|pg|| nt|cicus: I can't dance at all|pg|| nt|chick: not me, I'm equally bad at both |pg|| nt|jaapfr: and very happily married since 36 years|pg|| nt|chick: but I never let that stop me from trying :)|pg|| nt|chick: ah, well, then I must wait for a better offer :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: only during the breaks i am available:)|pg|| nt|chick: To the kibs, we are on a break, should resume fairly soon|pg|| nt|chick: I think the flight to Indonesia is longer than 20 minutes, sorry :)|pg|| nt|bobh1: yes we have accumulated many more kibs|pg|| nt|bobh1: must be the repartee attracting them|pg|| nt|jaapfr: with sensational bridge|pg|| nt|jaapfr: or they want to dance?|pg|| nt|bobh1: i used to fly to Jakarta from time to time--about 20 hours including layovers|pg|| nt|bobh1: from NYC|pg|| nt|chick: To the kibs: Jaap is a very fine dancer and is looking for a dance partner during bridge breaks, volunteer directly to him :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: :):)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: adam-jakarta 16 h|pg|| nt|chick: Bob, the flight to Binghamton is much shorter :)|pg|| nt|bobh1: this is a longer break than anticipated|pg|| nt|bobh1: must be rubber time, right Jaap?|pg|| nt|jaapfr: they are all dancing there|pg|| nt|jaapfr: indeed almost midnite|pg|| nt|chick: For the kibs, This Goulash tournament is fairly new, BBO has been broadcasting it for about 3 years now.|pg|| nt|chick: The hands are deliberately dealt to create unusual or extreme distributions.|pg|| nt|chick: As a result, bidding systems are minimal, and the trick is to find a fit quickly (if you have one, which you often don't) :)|pg|| nt|chick: When you do have a fit, the trumps are often split 5-0 :)|pg|| nt|chick: It makes for an exciting game, if not very technical :)|pg|| nt|chick: Hopefully we will resume from the break soon now|pg|| nt|bobh1: i think the term "goulash" originated among train commuters from NYC to the suburbs|pg|| nt|chick: lol|pg|| nt|bobh1: they didn't have time to properly shuffle the cards|pg|| nt|bobh1: or to deal them card by card|pg|| nt|bobh1: so they would just cut the deck a few times and then deal them in clumps |pg|| nt|bobh1: i wonder how they generate the hands in this tournament?|pg|| nt|chick: Goulash actually appeared in the middle of the last century, and originally meant an obligation to NOT take a specific number of tricks|pg|| nt|bobh1: sounds like "nolo" bridge|pg|| nt|chick: There is some interesting history here: http://www.nncup.org/page_01_e.htm|pg|| nt|cicus: sry, have to go, I wish you have some boards, the fun is already there :)|pg|| nt|chick: Thanks Gabor, see you later :)|pg|| nt|chick: ok, I've finished lunch, we can start again anytime :)|pg|| pc|s3|nt|vugraphzew: thanks all|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: ty :) cu later|pg|| nt|cicus: thanks all, bye for now|pg|| pc|sA|nt|aida_mk_nl: claim now|pg|| nt|sybarra: *signaling |pg|| pc|h2|nt|cicus: S did well again|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: wd |pg|| nt|sybarra: nicely done indeed|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|sybarra: I think both n/s know he can not get to dummy |pg|| nt|cicus: now N discard his heart just to let S know declarer still has one|pg|| pc|h3|nt|aida_mk_nl: +!?|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 1?|pg|| nt|cicus: ?|pg|| nt|cicus: probably just made|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: should be|pg|| nt|sybarra: I think just made|pg|| nt|vugraphzew: +1, S kept AD|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: pitty|pg|| nt|sybarra: oh and he had 9 of hts|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: he probably didnt noticed first disc of his ptr|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: small @D|pg|| nt|cicus: bye now, hope enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|sybarra: thx Gabor, see you soon |pg|| nt|cicus: thanks Aida ans Shirley|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: ty all :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: cu later|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|c9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|cQ|nt|jaapfr: try -3?|pg|| pc|h4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|h5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cK|pc|hQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|c7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|nt|jaapfr: byeeeeeee|pg|| nt|chick: Thanks to everyone :)|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h7|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQT6H6DAKQ87C8752,SKJ9853HT853DJ32C,SA742HA97D4CAKQ63,SHKQJ42DT965CJT94|sv|n|nt|werge: But to lead away from J 9 5 4 - never a good lead!|pg|| nt|snorris: 6 @cs is a good contract|pg|| mb|1C|nt|baardolav: not easy to find the killing lead there...|pg|| mb|1H|nt|werge: But this time for E/W|pg|| nt|snorris: but will probably fail|pg|| mb|2D|nt|snorris: 4-0 in @cs ..|pg|| nt|baardolav: 6c will make dosent it?|pg|| mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|baardolav: The one with 4@c have no spade, end 4@d|pg|| mb|p|nt|snorris: with carful play yes|pg|| nt|baardolav: and|pg|| nt|werge: I hink so, because the @D behave well|pg|| mb|p|nt|snorris: so much for slam!|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|snorris: thuis is good for e-w|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|nt|baardolav: EW mad things difficult to find that slam|pg|| nt|snorris: s should play @h now|pg|| nt|werge: But with 2 @H-ruffs, 6 @C is cold|pg|| pc|s4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|hT|nt|werge: Even 7 @C is a fair contract, it needs @D 4-3 and trumps 3-1 or better|pg|| nt|baardolav: trump have to be 2-2 in 7@c|pg|| nt|werge: No sorry - 6 is enough...|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|baardolav: going one down only now|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|c9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cA|nt|snorris: mega result for e-w|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|h8|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|s9|pc|hA|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S985HK742D2CKQT98,S642HQ85DAT64C532,SAKJT7H6DK93CAJ64,SQ3HAJT93DQJ875C7|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S985HK742D2CKQT98,S642HQ85DAT64C532,SAKJT7H6DK93CAJ64,SQ3HAJT93DQJ875C7|sv|e|nt|snorris: should have gone -3|pg|| nt|baardolav: Jensen Stray didnt se how|pg|| nt|snorris: no|pg|| nt|werge: Here 5 @C is easier than 4 @S|pg|| nt|baardolav: Belive they are talking a little now|pg|| mb|1H|nt|snorris: open east Hans?|pg|| mb|p|nt|werge: NO!|pg|| mb|2H|nt|snorris: hehe|pg|| mb|2S|nt|werge: But it´s close|pg|| nt|baardolav: 4sp will make 5... after singel club lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|snorris: opperator!!|pg|| nt|baardolav: Stray can bid 3sp now... 3@h would be good raise|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|snorris: thx|pg|| pc|c7|nt|werge: 3 @S - no brave man...|pg|| nt|snorris: agree very conservativ|pg|| nt|baardolav: one round of spade and heart vs king?|pg|| nt|baardolav: don't need to be brave, when you have 3@h for a good raise|pg|| nt|snorris: thats one way to do it|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|baardolav: A direct spade finesse?|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|werge: 1 @S from West in the first round would have hit fine...|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|nt|snorris: this is not helping any fro Team Jensen|pg|| nt|snorris: for|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SQT7HKJT4D965CQJ6,SK2HA962DJT742C75,S96543HQ7DA8CK843,SAJ8H853DKQ3CAT92|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cK|pc|s8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h2|pc|s9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h5|pc|cJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SQT7HKJT4D965CQJ6,SK2HA962DJT742C75,S96543HQ7DA8CK843,SAJ8H853DKQ3CAT92|sv|b|nt|baardolav: would everyone make the direct spadefinesse?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|baardolav: do not feel like a good move... even before or after|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|snorris: so small nt s|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|snorris: Must be 14-16hp |pg|| nt|snorris: since w invites|pg|| nt|werge: I bet on 15-17?|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|snorris: dont think e qualifies for that|pg|| nt|werge: And 1 NT with his 14 HCP is reasonable|pg|| nt|snorris: flat 14|pg|| nt|baardolav: I belive they use 14-16 with a strong club opening|pg|| nt|werge: It avoids the problem efter 1 @C - pass - ! @S - pass - and now|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c8|nt|snorris: looks like easy 8 tricks|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|h8|nt|snorris: or 9 if s throws @s|pg|| nt|baardolav: Stray is struggeling with partners 8 of @c|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|nt|baardolav: Norwegian players use invitanional leads in play, and belive east have th CK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg|| mc|9|nt|baardolav: jensen played the ( beacause it was bigger than the 7 in dummy|pg|| nt|baardolav: the 8|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SQT93HT4D98CAQ984,S76HA76DAKT43C763,SK5HK9DQJ7652CJT5,SAJ842HQJ8532DCK2|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|c2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|cK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SQT93HT4D98CAQ984,S76HA76DAKT43C763,SK5HK9DQJ7652CJT5,SAJ842HQJ8532DCK2|sv|o|nt|snorris: so wrong lead from north in @c|pg|| nt|baardolav: yes|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|snorris: not a good idea to finesse @h now|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|c2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|cK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|h7|pc|c5|pg|| mc|11|nt|baardolav: A good result againg for ew|pg|| nt|baardolav: again|pg|| nt|snorris: 5 @c is a good sacrifice|pg|| nt|baardolav: 2 minutes brake|pg|| nt|baardolav: smoking som IMP's|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SA85HT2DK93CAJ943,SQT943H75DAJ72CT5,S76HAK84DT5CKQ762,SKJ2HQJ963DQ864C8|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SA85HT2DK93CAJ943,SQT943H75DAJ72CT5,S76HAK84DT5CKQ762,SKJ2HQJ963DQ864C8|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|2H!|nt|baardolav: 3@s ew and 4@c ns?|pg|| mb|p|nt|snorris: partscore battle|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|baardolav: Stray makes inv minor|pg|| nt|snorris: more ambitous n-s|pg|| nt|baardolav: yes 3NT is not unfair |pg|| nt|snorris: seems no way to 9 tricks|pg|| nt|baardolav: making with DA onside|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|snorris: yes|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|werge: Anyway, without a @S-lead, this contract only needs @D a bye the hand, who bid 1 @H|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|werge: @D Ace...|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| nt|snorris: not unreasonable|pg|| nt|snorris: so unlucky n-s on top of it|pg|| nt|baardolav: Jensen did not see any other way to make the contract... I would have played 5 clubtricks first... many things can happend then|pg|| nt|snorris: e-w having a very good set so far|pg|| nt|snorris: @h back dealers last hope|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|c6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|cK|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d8|pc|c3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|snorris: e-w kept their cool and discarded rigth|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|hK|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAKJTHA42DK952CK4,S543HK75DJ87CA982,S962HJ9863DAQ6CT5,SQ87HQTDT43CQJ763|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|dK|pc|c8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c9|pc|h9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|c7|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAKJTHA42DK952CK4,S543HK75DJ87CA982,S962HJ9863DAQ6CT5,SQ87HQTDT43CQJ763|sv|b|mb|p|nt|snorris: 4 @h likly now|pg|| nt|snorris: and likly -1|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|baardolav: A lucky 3nt in south hand|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|snorris: can be won by drawing ace of @h and then 4x @d|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|snorris: 4 @h that is|pg|| nt|baardolav: NS need som luck |pg|| pc|cJ|nt|snorris: yes 3nt is good|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|snorris: killed right away|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dT|nt|werge: North is quilty - he had absolutely no reasomn to prefer 4 @H.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c3|nt|baardolav: jensen plays for Intrafinesse|pg|| nt|baardolav: that we knew failed|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c2|nt|werge: Yes - East could have stressed him by taking the trich with Queen|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SA9643HK85D4CA976,SQJ82HJ2DAKJT7CJ8,S75HQ9743DQ85CKT5,SKTHAT6D9632CQ432|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h8|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|cJ|pc|dQ|pc|c3|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SA9643HK85D4CA976,SQJ82HJ2DAKJT7CJ8,S75HQ9743DQ85CKT5,SKTHAT6D9632CQ432|sv|o|nt|snorris: part score" again"|pg|| mb|1S|nt|snorris: my guess is 3 @d e-w|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|snorris: 2 times pass??|pg|| nt|snorris: in west|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|snorris: is he ashamed of his @d s?|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|baardolav: EW feel they dont need to make anything yet|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| nt|snorris: might be a small gain for n-s!|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| nt|snorris: e-w can make 2 @ds|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|snorris: 2 imps mayby|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|cA|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|h9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|s9|pg|| nt|snorris: nope|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SQJ875HAKQJ2D4C62,S64H9854DKJ76CA54,S93HT73DQT52CKQ98,SAKT2H6DA983CJT73|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|sA|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SQJ875HAKQJ2D4C62,S64H9854DKJ76CA54,S93HT73DQT52CKQ98,SAKT2H6DA983CJT73|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|snorris: no Michaels?|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h2|nt|snorris: -1 it seems|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|snorris: east should get the @d s right now|pg|| pc|c8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|c5|nt|snorris: nice|pg|| mc|7|nt|snorris: a squeze|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SJT832HAK6DK93CA9,SAK94H53DA2CQJ872,SQ76H972DQ7CKT543,S5HQJT84DJT8654C6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SJT832HAK6DK93CA9,SAK94H53DA2CQJ872,SQ76H972DQ7CKT543,S5HQJT84DJT8654C6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|snorris: no fighting spirit in east|pg|| nt|snorris: could win up to 3 @d|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| nt|baardolav: NS need some magic|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|snorris: its forthcomming , west going up with the ace|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg|| nt|snorris: 8tricks now|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAQ5H87654DQ975CT,SJT82HQDT643CAK86,S943HJT2DK2CQ7532,SK76HAK93DAJ8CJ94|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAQ5H87654DQ975CT,SJT82HQDT643CAK86,S943HJT2DK2CQ7532,SK76HAK93DAJ8CJ94|sv|o|nt|snorris: 3 nt e-w|pg|| nt|baardolav: Yes|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|baardolav: should be made at both tables|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|snorris: yes no problems , 4! tricks in @h s feks|pg|| pc|d7|nt|snorris: now 4 in @ds|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|snorris: 3 sorry|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|s9|pg|| nt|snorris: seems a good discard|pg|| pc|cT|nt|snorris: if it denies interest in @s|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s2|nt|snorris: when in with the Q of @c n has to play @s otherwice 10 tricks|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c8|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s6|mc|9|nt|snorris: well... settles for 9|pg|| nt|snorris: oddly enough|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S965432HJT75DCKQJ,SAK7HQ9DAJ854C932,SQJTHAK43D62CA876,S8H862DKQT973CT54|sv|n|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|d7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|d9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S965432HJT75DCKQJ,SAK7HQ9DAJ854C932,SQJTHAK43D62CA876,S8H862DKQT973CT54|sv|n|nt|snorris: safe to go for 10|pg|| nt|werge: 500 here - ore 620|pg|| nt|werge: or|pg|| nt|snorris: right|pg|| mb|2D!|an|ekrens|mb|d|nt|snorris: double fit so...|pg|| nt|baardolav: ekrens both major, with 6-4 one Hp in the maj suits|pg|| nt|snorris: :)|pg|| nt|werge: An ugly multi for more reasons...!!!|pg|| nt|snorris: not everyones choise a Hans?|pg|| nt|baardolav: It is not multi, show at least 4-4 in maj|pg|| nt|werge: Or is it for the majors? Not much better - with 6 HCP in a side suit|pg|| nt|snorris: should get them to game though|pg|| nt|snorris: so ugly or not..effective|pg|| mb|p|nt|werge: But it hits the target, I think - and that´s what it´s all about..|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|snorris: now the qustion is will east belive in norths 4M and sacrifice?|pg|| mb|p|nt|snorris: what??|pg|| nt|snorris: rescu squad maybe|pg|| nt|snorris: 3 @d|pg|| nt|werge: What is North´s opnion on what 2 @D promises?|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|d|nt|snorris: east will run|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|snorris: ...I think|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|nt|baardolav: one down|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| nt|baardolav: great sacrifie|pg|| pc|d4|nt|snorris: stillcheap aginst game but..|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|nt|werge: Strage sacrifice, if they escape for 1 down - og a @S-lead...|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|nt|werge: They had 800 in the pocket|pg|| nt|snorris: very strange the whole thing|pg|| mc|8|nt|snorris: lift a ace of h feks seems ok|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAT94HKJ85DK962CA,SKQ76H9763DT53CK2,S8532HQDQJ4CT8764,SJHAT42DA87CQJ953|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|dT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|h6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|c9|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h7|mc|7|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SAT94HKJ85DK962CA,SKQ76H9763DT53CK2,S8532HQDQJ4CT8764,SJHAT42DA87CQJ953|sv|e|nt|baardolav: Seems like NS dont know the power and the afterbidding in the 2d convention|pg|| mb|p|nt|baardolav: And the same convention have been used it seems in the other room here... -500 ew|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|baardolav: I looked, no 2d opening in west hand... just a good double ns|pg|| nt|snorris: no opened 2@s|pg|| nt|snorris: and north bid 4|pg|| mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|snorris: in last board|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|snorris: another good result for e-w|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|snorris: they are killing Team Jensen|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Last board of the first half now|pg|| pc|h2|nt|baardolav: see you around... have to make som coffee|pg|| nt|snorris: see you|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|nt|Walddk4: Many thanks to Karl Olav Nybø Hansen, our very capable operator in Kristiansand. Well done!|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Also thanks to our excellent commentators: Snorri Sveinsson, Baard Olav Aasan and Hans Werge|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|cK|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Play will resume after a break for about 15 minutes|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome back then|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|cT|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|cQ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|snorris: bye|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Thanks all, bye for now|pg|| pg||